| Windows 7: 4 GB of Physical Memory but 1.74 GB Usable |
09 Nov 2011
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| | Windows 7 Pro-x64 1,907 posts South Texas |
You're too fast. I found your slot-2--I was looking at the wrong pics.
Well, I would say it's BIOS option time. You'll have to look through the menus and find something that resembles System and/or Configuration. Look for Memory Options or something similar.
Forgot to mention: There could be menu extensions too. These could be just a line that says Advanced. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Microsoft Internet Explorer 10 Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
09 Nov 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 6,496 posts Hampton VA |
Quote: According to the article that was posted, Hardware reserved does NOT allow any other program or operations to take that RAM. I guess you would consider it not to be shared. So that means if I've got over 2 GB of RAM being used up, the all I'm effectively left with to run all my other programs is around the 1.74 GB. Yes, this is basically true. For whatever reason somthing is telling your system to reserved 2gig of memory for hardware use. And that memory can't be use for anything other that what it's allocated to.... whatever that is.
Are you sure you've checked msconfig to make sure the max memory box isn't checked?
Just FYI - I did an experiment playing with this box and these are the results..... Without the Maximum memory box checked..... WIth the Maximum memory box checked.....
If the box is un-ticked then it's probably a BIOS or motherboard issue. In this case either a BIOS update is required, or a BIOS adjustment may be needed.
Also make sure the Number of processors box isn't checked either.
You might have to give HP a call and ask them what's going on. Don't let them BS you though as again, you should not have that much memory reserved.
I'm still searching for a better answer though. Will let you know. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card Soundblaster ZXR Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB), 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
09 Nov 2011
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| | Windows 7 Pro-x64 1,907 posts South Texas |
I found a BIOS reference to Ganged/Unganged memory, if your processor supports it.: Chipset > Northbridge Configuration > Memory Configuration > DCT Ungangned Mode=? It wasn't clear what options were available but "AUTO" seemed to be for Unganged mode (split controllers). AMD's logic on this seems to be bass-ackwards. Appearently, they like to bury things deep in menus too.
I would look in that area and see what other "Memory" options are available.
Also, what is the video "aperture" size set to? No telling where you'll find that. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Microsoft Internet Explorer 10 Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
09 Nov 2011
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| | Windows 7 Pro-x64 1,907 posts South Texas |
Good point too Sygnus21. What happens if you check max memory box and set it to 4096? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Microsoft Internet Explorer 10 Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
09 Nov 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 6,496 posts Hampton VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz Good point too Sygnus21. What happens if you check max memory box and set it to 4096? I actually tried that but for some reason those settings wouldn't stick. Anyway I wasn't about to hose my system so I left well enough alone
As for the OP's issue - I suggest he call HP instead of just arbitrarily messing about in the BIOS. And seeing that this is a laptop with an MD chip I can't offer anymore suggestions than what I've offered as I know nothing about how AMD motherboards, or processors.
Anyway there is definitely something wrong with that much memory being reserved.
However I am curious as to what’s switchable GPU memory?
Is there a switch or button that enables you to change the amount of memory used by the GPU? If so has the OP played around with the switch to see if the reserved memory decreases? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card Soundblaster ZXR Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB), 2TB WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
09 Nov 2011
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| | Windows 7 Pro-x64 1,907 posts South Texas |
I don't understand all I know about switchable GPU memory. The way I get it is that it's "shared" between the integrated graphics chipset and a discrete graphics card. The switching is automatic by graphics demand. It's supposed to be a way to lower power requirements when the demand for graphics is low. When the demand increases, the discrete graphics card takes over and GPU memory is copied to RAM to feed the display(s) connected via the integrated graphics. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Built 2/11/2011 OS Windows 7 Pro-x64 CPU i7-2600 3.4GHz - 3.8GHz Turbo Motherboard Intel DH67BL-B3 Memory 8Gb - 2x4GB, Muskin 991770 PC3-1333 Graphics Card Integrated Intel HD 2000 Sound Card Integrated Intel 10.1 HD, RealTek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays Asus LCD VH222H, Haier HL24XSL2a Screen Resolution 1920x1080, 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech EX100 Wireless Mouse Logitech EX100 Wireless PSU Seasonic 650W 80+ Gold Modular Case Rosewill Defender Cooling Stock CPU, Four 120mm case fans, PCH fan added Hard Drives Crucial C300-128Gb,
Western Digital WD5002AALX - 500Gb,
Western Digital WD7501AALS - 750Gb Internet Speed 2.5/1.5 Mbs Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Microsoft Internet Explorer 10 Other Info Antec Veris Premier-Multimedia IR Station,
Cyber Accoustics-3602 Speakers,
AFT XM-5U Card Reader,
Hauppauge TV-HVR-2250,
Sony LX300 USB Turntable |
10 Nov 2011
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| | Windows 7 home premium x64 637 posts |
Yes agreed. But 1 graphics card at 1Gb and a bit for mapped hard drives and motherboard can easily get you to 1.6Gb which would be normal. If there where 2 graphics cards,just for physX say one at 0.5Gb, then the memory allocated would be in that order of size.
OK there is 4GB in a 32 bit system. I maintain what I said before.
It's normal, not a problem, don't try and fix it.
Last edited by cyclic; 10 Nov 2011 at 06:35 AM..
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10 Nov 2011
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| | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit 1,784 posts Fantasyland |
No - over 2GB of unusable memory is NOT normal, especially for a 64-bit Windows.
The onboard video in my own laptop can use up to 1407MB of the system's RAM but only when needed (and Windows still has first dibs on that RAM). The amount that's truly reserved and cordoned off for the video from the start is only 256MB. I would expect a similar scenario to apply to the OP's system. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 4GB DDR2-667 (4x1GB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays Acer Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~330KB/sec down, ~110KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
E: - videos, music, misc. storage, torrent downloads, etc. |
10 Nov 2011
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| | Win 7 Ultimate x64 6,700 posts Etobicoke, Ontario |
It could be that cyclic is correct. Just went back and double checked and that laptop only supports up to 8 GB. Makes me wonder if it isn't running into this, The system memory that is reported in the System Information dialog box in Windows Vista is less than you expect if 4 GB of RAM is installed
which would/should only happen on an AMD system when the max amount of memory is installed, and for whatever reason the motherboard/computer manufacturer limits it in the bios as well. Wouldn't be the first time I have seen HP computers with unexplainable/stupid restrictions in the bios.
There is one quick way to check if that is what it is. deepeyes I assume when you got it it has 2x2 GB sticks in it and you replaced those with 2x4 GB sticks. If that is the ase try running it with 1x2 and 1x4, and see if the 6 GB total is available.
@carwiz, ganged and unganged is essentially,
Ganged - the memory controller configured to run dual channel through a single 128 bit bus.
Unganged - each channel runs on a 64 bit bus
Most benchmarks have shown that it is better to have it set to unganged over ganged, at least on AMD systems. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Xonar DGX w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
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