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Windows 7: AHCI slower than IDE :-P

09 Nov 2011   #1
Corazon

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 
AHCI slower than IDE :-P

Not a request for help, just something I wanted to share. I'm sure there's one or two opinions waiting to be heard.

So, I switched my SATA controller over to AHCI from IDE, since I have a new OCZ Vertex Plus 60GB SSD...enabled the registry setting for the MSAHCI driver before rebooting and everything is beautiful. Just as before.

Just as before? Not quite. LOL. See for yourself...


ATTO benchmark results - IDE mode

[IMG]http://s8.**************/hwujfj36t/on_ide.png[/IMG]


ATTO benchmark results - AHCI mode


[IMG]http://s7.**************/dq8ww321n/on_ahci.png[/IMG]



In AHCI, performance actually drops across the board, just slightly - except that reading large blocks gets a few MB/sec faster starting with 128KB blocks.

Hmm. I was expecting a tiny bit more. But now that I'm on AHCI I'll leave it, even if there's no actual advantage it's nice to know NCQ is enabled.


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09 Nov 2011   #2
logicearth

Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)
 
 

Umm...Those test do not have any dependency on whether you are using IDE or AHCI the result will be the same. Also you cannot take performance results at face value when comparing. You need a threshold. You can test the same drive over and over again without changing anything and the numbers will change, fluctuate up and down every time. You need to take that into consideration when comparing results.
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09 Nov 2011   #3
Corazon

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

No dependency? I understand that ATTO is one of the best disk benchmarks for SSDs because it can queue I/O requests and put NCQ to work that way. I do realize, though, that NCQ would have more of an effect with harddisks and their comparatively huge access times.

What you're saying suggests there would be no difference between IDE and AHCI, period. I'm sure some people would beg to differ...

And I'm well aware of fluctuations from test to test, but the conclusion remains that in my particular case, AHCI brought very little advantage.

Do you think something was wrong with my testing methodology? Or have suggestions for other benchmark apps?
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09 Nov 2011   #4
logicearth

Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)
 
 

There is no performance difference to IDE or AHCI because they are only communication protocols. The actual physical SATA connection is what determines the speed. Not whether you are using IDE or AHCI. IDE and AHCI will preform the same because the SATA connection is the same speed regardless.
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09 Nov 2011   #5
bej

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit
 
 

FWIW
I had called Gigabyte several months ago about changing from IDE to AHCI. The tech told me they (Gigabyte) had found little speed difference between the two.
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09 Nov 2011   #6
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

My understanding is that the Trim command will not work in IDE mode so AHCI mode is best for SSD drives.

Jim
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10 Nov 2011   #7
Corazon

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
There is no performance difference to IDE or AHCI because they are only communication protocols. The actual physical SATA connection is what determines the speed. Not whether you are using IDE or AHCI. IDE and AHCI will preform the same because the SATA connection is the same speed regardless.
When you put it like that, it makes perfect sense of course. Besides, I didn't expect any miracles - though I would have thought that very-small-block writes would have sped up a little, but that does differ from system to system.

Curious, though, why so many then claim that "AHCI is faster than IDE." But this is exactly why I shared my findings to invite opinions. I have no problem at all with my numbers.
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10 Nov 2011   #8
GeneO

Windows 7 64 bit SP1. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot.
 
 

ATTO is one of the worst benchmarks. It uses fully compressible data (all zeros). It also does not do many threaded small reads and writes (i.e. 64 thread 4k random reads.writes), where AHCI will perform much better than IDE

Arguably the best synthetic benchmark is AS_SSD.

Besides, from what I see of your posting, it looks like AHCI is slightly better
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10 Nov 2011   #9
Corazon

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

Hmm.

I'll try AS-SSD again, then, but I had the impression ATTO was widely regarded as the best. Ahwell

Not sure what compressible data would have to do with anything, unless you're thinking Sandforce controllers and their built-in compression. My SSD uses an Indilink Martini controller.
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10 Nov 2011   #10
GeneO

Windows 7 64 bit SP1. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Corazon View Post
Hmm.

I'll try AS-SSD again, then, but I had the impression ATTO was widely regarded as the best. Ahwell

Not sure what compressible data would have to do with anything, unless you're thinking Sandforce controllers and their built-in compression. My SSD uses an Indilink Martini controller.
Only by vendors whose drives do compression so their rates look higher LOL
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