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Windows 7: Should I defragment my (18% fragmented) SSD?
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04 Dec 2011
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Windows 7 x64 54 posts United Kingdom |
Should I defragment my (18% fragmented) SSD?
Disk Defragmenter is reporting my 60GB SSD is 18% fragmented.
I have never defragmented the SSD as the general consensus seems to be that it's unnecessary on SSDs and if anything, it shortens the life of them.
Should I defragment it?
| My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 x64
CPU Intel Core i5-750
Motherboard Asus P7H55-M SI
Memory 8 GB DDR3-1333
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560
Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2232BW
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04 Dec 2011
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Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit 6,487 posts Grafton,IL |
NO! NO! NO!
NEVER EVER defrag an SSD.
The SSD is not fragmented. It appears fragmented to Disk defrag because the defragger is made for reading HDD's/spinners not SSD's.
The controller in the SSD places the files where it can access them the quickest and to prevent excess wear and tear.
The SSD controller does its' own internal "defragging/clean up" in its own way. TRIM is one of those clean up processes. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hopalong/ Godzilla
OS Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
CPU Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core
Motherboard ASUS P7P55D-E PRO
Memory 8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB
Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
Sound Card VIA Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays Asus VS248H-P 24"; Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws
Screen Resolution 1920x1080; 1440x900
Keyboard Logitech K-320
Mouse Kensington
PSU COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular
Case COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black
Cooling Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans)
Hard Drives Samsung 830 120GB SSD
Intel 320 120GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Antivirus Avast Inernet Suite
Browser IE 9 ; Chrome
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04 Dec 2011
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Windows 7 Professional x64 151 posts Orlando, FL |
Quote: Originally Posted by Hopalong X  NO! NO! NO!
NEVER EVER defrag an SSD.
The SSD is not fragmented. It appears fragmented to Disk defrag because the defragger is made for reading HDD's/spinners not SSD's.
The controller in the SSD places the files where it can access them the quickest and to prevent excess wear and tear.
The SSD controller does its' own internal "defragging/clean up" in its own way. TRIM is one of those clean up processes.  i learn something new everyday | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Box
OS Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition @ 4.1Ghz
Motherboard ECS Elite Group IC780M-A V2.0
Memory 8GB Crucial DDR2 PC5300
Graphics Card Asus Radeon HD 5450
Sound Card On Board
Monitor(s) Displays Dual Monitor Setup
Keyboard Logitech...
Mouse Microsoft Mouse 4000
PSU Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500w
Case Cooler Master Elite 310
Cooling Dual 120mm Cooler Master Case Fans
Hard Drives 60GB OCZ Vertex 3 SSD,
320GB, 250GB, & Dual 160GB HDD's
Internet Speed Super Fast
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04 Dec 2011
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Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit 6,487 posts Grafton,IL |
Big Tom
From you specs.- 60GB OCZ Vertex 3 SSD
Some brands and I beleive OCZ is one that have what they call "garbage collection" that also works along with TRIM. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hopalong/ Godzilla
OS Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
CPU Intel Core i7-870 Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core
Motherboard ASUS P7P55D-E PRO
Memory 8GB@1400MHz Crucial Ballistix DDR3-1600 4x2GB
Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
Sound Card VIA Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays Asus VS248H-P 24"; Samsung SyncMaster 941BW 19"ws
Screen Resolution 1920x1080; 1440x900
Keyboard Logitech K-320
Mouse Kensington
PSU COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RS850-AMBAJ3-US 850W Modular
Case COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN5-GP Black
Cooling Scythe "Mugen-2 Rev.B" (2 ScytheKaze-Jyuni PWM fans)
Hard Drives Samsung 830 120GB SSD
Intel 320 120GB SSD
Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Antivirus Avast Inernet Suite
Browser IE 9 ; Chrome
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04 Dec 2011
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Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM 7,606 posts NW Florida |
Quote: Originally Posted by Hopalong X NO! NO! NO!
NEVER EVER defrag an SSD.
The SSD is not fragmented. It appears fragmented to Disk defrag because the defragger is made for reading HDD's/spinners not SSD's.
The controller in the SSD places the files where it can access them the quickest and to prevent excess wear and tear.
The SSD controller does its' own internal "defragging/clean up" in its own way. TRIM is one of those clean up processes.  As Hoppalong said, never defrag an SSD.
@ Big Tom. On OCZ's with the Sandforce Controller, they recommend you start from a cold boot and let it idle at the login screen 2 hours per week. It does what they call 'idle time garbage collection'. | | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction
OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM
CPU Intel i7-3770K
Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77
Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB)
Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB
Sound Card On Board
Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD
Screen Resolution 1920X1080
Keyboard Logitech G510
Mouse Logitech G500
PSU CORSAIR AX850
Case Cooler Master HAF X
Cooling Custom Water Cooling
Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint
Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed
Antivirus MSE/MBAM
Browser ie9
Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Samsung 830 256Gb, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1.
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04 Dec 2011
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 17,871 posts Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Absolutely not. Fragmentation means nothing to SSDs. With a defrag you would just put unnecessary strain on the SSD. | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207
Keyboard with trackball - no mices
Mouse Trackball mice
Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Internet Speed DSL 6000
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05 Dec 2011
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Windows 7 Professional x64 151 posts Orlando, FL |
Quote: Originally Posted by Hopalong X Big Tom
From you specs.- 60GB OCZ Vertex 3 SSD
Some brands and I beleive OCZ is one that have what they call "garbage collection" that also works along with TRIM. As Hoppalong said, never defrag an SSD.
@ Big Tom. On OCZ's with the Sandforce Controller, they recommend you start from a cold boot and let it idle at the login screen 2 hours per week. It does what they call 'idle time garbage collection'.[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys!  | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Box
OS Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition @ 4.1Ghz
Motherboard ECS Elite Group IC780M-A V2.0
Memory 8GB Crucial DDR2 PC5300
Graphics Card Asus Radeon HD 5450
Sound Card On Board
Monitor(s) Displays Dual Monitor Setup
Keyboard Logitech...
Mouse Microsoft Mouse 4000
PSU Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500w
Case Cooler Master Elite 310
Cooling Dual 120mm Cooler Master Case Fans
Hard Drives 60GB OCZ Vertex 3 SSD,
320GB, 250GB, & Dual 160GB HDD's
Internet Speed Super Fast
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05 Dec 2011
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Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2 4,012 posts Australia |
More SSD knowledgeable ones above correct me if I'm wrong....
You should also make sure the auto Disk Defrag schedule is turned off for the SSD drive. Disk Defragmenter Schedule- Turn On or Off | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build (+ Recased Acer Aspire x1800)
OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1 x 2
CPU Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse Logitech MK520
PSU Seasonic M12II 520W
Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB (000F), Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS +
Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps
Antivirus Norton NIS, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser FireFox
Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
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05 Dec 2011
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 6,497 posts Hampton VA |
Windows (7) will usually automatically turn off Defrag when the SSD drive is detected by running WEI. | | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me
OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios
Memory 12 gig Corsair DDR3 Dominator GT Memory (3X 4GB)
Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire)
Sound Card Soundblaster ZXR
Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080
Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave
Mouse Logitech Performance MX
PSU Antec Signature - SG-850
Case Cooler Master HAF X
Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14
Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (256GB). Storage - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB), 2TB WD Caviar Black.
Internet Speed High Speed Cable
Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts
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05 Dec 2011
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Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android 8,399 posts Mauritius |
Quote: Originally Posted by King Mustard Disk Defragmenter is reporting my 60GB SSD is 18% fragmented.
I have never defragmented the SSD as the general consensus seems to be that it's unnecessary on SSDs and if anything, it shortens the life of them.
Should I defragment it? As said earlier you don't need to defrag SSDs | | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64 / Windows 8 Pro / Android
CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 OC'd 3.08GHz
Motherboard Asus Rampage formula LGA775
Memory 8GB DDR2 900Mhz
Graphics Card Zotac GTX 460OC 2GB GDDR5/Asus EN9600GT 1GB DDR3 PhyX
Sound Card Supreme FX2
Monitor(s) Displays AOC 22'
Screen Resolution 1680x1050
Keyboard Prolink keyboard
Mouse Prolink optical mouse
PSU Cooler Master GX 650W
Cooling Cooler Master V6 + 3X fans
Hard Drives 3X500GB hitachi, 2TB internal, 500GB Seagate FreeAgent, 640GB Samsung
Internet Speed 1MiB/s
Other Info 5.1 System + 2.1 System
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