PC has been slower since last format

1) If you've installed a Japanese LPK, try removing it (and migrating back to English) to see if that has any effect (check for the existence of lpksetup.exe in the process list).
2) Again, no experience with Steam personally, but I do know that it's not exactly a performance enhancer .
3) Are you really running a monitor that doesn't merge sync and sync on green? If not, you don't really need this.
4) Good - again, anything you don't absolutely need running immediately at logon can be set to not start and thus will only run when you need them. This is a good idea no matter what, anyway, so good to do.
5) Yet you're having performance issues - please stop assuming because something worked fine before that it's also doing so now.
6) See #5

cluberti said:

1) If you've installed a Japanese LPK, try removing it (and migrating back to English) to see if that has any effect (check for the existence of lpksetup.exe in the process list).
2) Again, no experience with Steam personally, but I do know that it's not exactly a performance enhancer .
3) Are you really running a monitor that doesn't merge sync and sync on green? If not, you don't really need this.
4) Good - again, anything you don't absolutely need running immediately at logon can be set to not start and thus will only run when you need them. This is a good idea no matter what, anyway, so good to do.
5) Yet you're having performance issues - please stop assuming because something worked fine before that it's also doing so now.
6) See #5

That was what stood out for me in this as well. It may have been fine on another install, but it doesn't mean it is now. Why would be another question, but if it is the issue, it is whether it worked fine before or not. A Guy

I would suggest trying this - install Windows 7 with just your drivers (and for now, avoid the CCC control panel and just install ATI drivers) and all Windows Updates, and get a boot trace. Then, add what you absolutely need, and get a second trace. Compress them both and upload them, and we'll have a look and see before/after.

That's OK mate - take your time. It's not like the forum is going anywhere :).

As to your question - yes. Install Windows 7 SP1, then install the ATI drivers without control panel (there's a download option on the ATI / AMD site where you get the driver bundle that will contain the drivers without the control panel, but you sometimes have to scroll down on the download page to find them), then any other hardware drivers you need. Once that's done (and your device manager shows all devices installed), run Windows Update and get all updates until there are no more when you check.

Then, reboot 5 times (yes, 5 times - it's specific for superfetch and readyboot), run defrag C: /u /v (assuming C: is the drive letter for Windows) from an elevated cmd prompt, run defrag c: /b from the same elevated cmd prompt when the previous defrag finishes, and then reboot once more. Install the Perf Toolkit and get a boot trace as before, and then tell us "how it feels", performance-wise, after all that (since you're busy, I'll not expect anything soon - I'll keep an eye on this thread).

Next, install your system as you always would, software and all, and once that's all done do the defrag steps as previously described above, reboot, and get another boot trace. Again, tell us "how it feels" after doing all of that as well.

cluberti said:

That's OK mate - take your time. It's not like the forum is going anywhere :).

As to your question - yes. Install Windows 7 SP1, then install the ATI drivers without control panel (there's a download option on the ATI / AMD site where you get the driver bundle that will contain the drivers without the control panel, but you sometimes have to scroll down on the download page to find them), then any other hardware drivers you need. Once that's done (and your device manager shows all devices installed), run Windows Update and get all updates until there are no more when you check.

Then, reboot 5 times (yes, 5 times - it's specific for superfetch and readyboot), run defrag C: /u /v (assuming C: is the drive letter for Windows) from an elevated cmd prompt, run defrag c: /b from the same elevated cmd prompt when the previous defrag finishes, and then reboot once more. Install the Perf Toolkit and get a boot trace as before, and then tell us "how it feels", performance-wise, after all that (since you're busy, I'll not expect anything soon - I'll keep an eye on this thread).

Next, install your system as you always would, software and all, and once that's all done do the defrag steps as previously described above, reboot, and get another boot trace. Again, tell us "how it feels" after doing all of that as well.

Ahh so I download them , no need to use my CD right?
what are those commands for? I only have one Hard disk drive with no partitions (I don't know if that's what you mean)

gregrocker said:

We've been through all of this before. When I connected via remote I had turned off the Startup programs which apparently were turned right back on again. I explained CCC needed to come out, that it's bloatware which causes many problems. And I've explained that he needs to use the drivers given by the installer and quickly updated via optional Windows Updates for awhile to check performance, before changing them out to manufacturer's drivers.

Win7 is driver-complete and the authority on its own drivers. This is not XP. Only change out drivers which are causing performance issues.

Changing out drivers given by the installer and updated via optional Windows Updates is a big cause of performance issues.

Let me get this clear. I have to install drivers from my CDs first and then download windows 7 drivers from Windows Update, right? You guys are contradicting yourselves xD

senjougahara said:

what are those commands for? I only have one Hard disk drive with no partitions (I don't know if that's what you mean)

Those commands will (first) defragment the hard disk using specific options, and then (second) do a "boot optimization" defrag pass, which specifically looks to affect the areas of disk that are impacted during boot.

senjougahara said:

Let me get this clear. I have to install drivers from my CDs first and then download windows 7 drivers from Windows Update, right? You guys are contradicting yourselves xD

Well, not really, but it can be somewhat confusing the first few times you have to get your hands dirty like this. Ultimately, what I think we're all trying to convey is that if you can get away with NOT installing any drivers off of the CD that shipped with the PC, do so. If you absolutely need the network drivers before you can access the internet from a clean Win7 install, then that's OK, but it would be better to start absolutely clean and use only download/install updated drivers from the vendor's websites directly, and the drivers on the CD should be avoided for this test at all costs.


Make sense?