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Windows 7 - Defrag and Cleaning |
01-20-2012
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Defrag and Cleaning I am the guy that is now going from XP to 7. I've read all the threads on defragging and have concluded that there is more support given to defrag as opposed not to.
Questions:
1. Is the Windows 7 utility competent?
2. Is it a good idea to run the programs that defrag on the fly?
3. At what percentage would be a gauge to defrag?
4. Is the clean utility competent in 7? If not I see overwhelming support for CCleaner.
Thanks,
Jack
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01-20-2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Windows Defrag is competent.
Its default schedule is weekly.
I have NEVER manually defragged my drives and I have never seen fragmentation levels above 5%.
The clean utility of Windows 7 is competent. So is CCleaner, but try to restrain yourself from using its registry cleaner. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
01-20-2012
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I would venture to say that most of us have moved on to using SSD drives about the same time we moved to Windows 7. Thus, no defrag tools needed ... at least on the boot side. The main reason to defrag is for speed, so with only my data drive not being SSD, speed is not really the problem it once was. So, I just use the built-in tool. Defraggler is a nice option if you want more visual feedback of what is happening. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q6600 Motherboard Asus P5K-E Memory Crucial 8GB Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 8800GT Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays NEC 2490wuxi2 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless Black MX Mouse Razar DeathAdder PSU Corsair HX520w Case Antec P180B Hard Drives Intel X25-M |
01-20-2012
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Windows defragmenter is good, it does the job. CCleaner is good but registry cleaners + Windows 7 = Bad Idea Ignatzatsonic, i've got my PC up on my desk and whenever my hard drive is being defragged, it sounds like a jet's taking off next to my face! :biggrin: | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU DualCore Intel Pentium D 930, 3000 MHz (15 x 200) Motherboard Asus P5LP-LE (Emery) Memory 3x512MB DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX Sound Card Realtek ALC882/D/M @ Intel 82801GB ICH7 Monitor(s) Displays Iiyama ProLite E2407HDS Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 70 Hz Keyboard Hewlett Packard Wireless Ergo Mouse Logitech USB Wheel Mouse Hard Drives WDC WD10EARS-00Y5B1 ATA Device Internet Speed 10mbps Download - 1mbps Upload |
01-20-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by pcunite I would venture to say that most of us have moved on to using SSD drives about the same time we moved to Windows 7. Thus, no defrag tools needed ... at least on the boot side. The main reason to defrag is for speed, so with only my data drive not being SSD, speed is not really the problem it once was. So, I just use the built-in tool. Defraggler is a nice option if you want more visual feedback of what is happening. Learning Curve Question; What is unique about a Solid State Drive as opposed to the regular ones? | My System Specs | | |
01-20-2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by jack1953
Learning Curve Question; What is unique about a Solid State Drive as opposed to the regular ones? Speed.
More particularly, access times. Most noticeable in booting, defragging, virus scans, and overall "responsiveness". | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
01-20-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic 
Quote: Originally Posted by jack1953
Learning Curve Question; What is unique about a Solid State Drive as opposed to the regular ones? Speed.
More particularly, access times. Most noticeable in booting, defragging, virus scans, and overall "responsiveness". The access times are around 0.1ms, 170 times faster than a hormal hard drive | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU DualCore Intel Pentium D 930, 3000 MHz (15 x 200) Motherboard Asus P5LP-LE (Emery) Memory 3x512MB DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX Sound Card Realtek ALC882/D/M @ Intel 82801GB ICH7 Monitor(s) Displays Iiyama ProLite E2407HDS Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 70 Hz Keyboard Hewlett Packard Wireless Ergo Mouse Logitech USB Wheel Mouse Hard Drives WDC WD10EARS-00Y5B1 ATA Device Internet Speed 10mbps Download - 1mbps Upload |
01-20-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic 
Quote: Originally Posted by jack1953
Learning Curve Question; What is unique about a Solid State Drive as opposed to the regular ones? Speed.
More particularly, access times. Most noticeable in booting, defragging, virus scans, and overall "responsiveness". I thought the speed was determined by the processor? | My System Specs | | |
01-20-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic 
Quote: Originally Posted by jack1953
Learning Curve Question; What is unique about a Solid State Drive as opposed to the regular ones? Speed.
More particularly, access times. Most noticeable in booting, defragging, virus scans, and overall "responsiveness". Is it me, or do the SSDs require less space? What I mean is, the ones I have seen advertised are usually much smaller in G size. | My System Specs | | |
01-20-2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
SSDs are much more expensive per gigabyte. but most people only keep their operating system and programs on the SSD, so 60 to 120 GB is enough. Maybe $100 to $150 in the USA.
Re speed: CPU speed helps at some things (such as encoding video, mathematical computations), but disk speed is an over-riding issue on many PC tasks. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load Defrag and Cleaning problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:54 PM. |  |