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Windows 7 - Dual vs quad core - choosing |
01-30-2012
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Dual vs quad core - choosing Pick the one with the higher Ghz (clock) rate unless you do have some applications (games, video processing?) that truly can simultaneously use more than 2 processors.
A word to the wise.
99% of the time, you won't have 4 running units of work.
Plenty of graphs of real application use show the faster duo finishing tasks more quickly.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core) Motherboard GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4G Graphics Card integrated ATI HD 4200 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Mouse Logitech WIRED! PSU Ultra X4 500W Case Ultra X-blaster Hard Drives 1 SATA (750GB, 32MB cache, 7200 RPM)
1 IDE (80GB, 8MB cache, 7200 RPM) Internet Speed 15 Mbps FIOS |
01-31-2012
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Remember, though, Windows itself is threadsafe, and the thread scheduler will try to balance workloads across idle CPUs (and prefer physical cores to hyperthreaded ones too, until the system gets too busy to avoid them). Just because most of your applications might be single-threaded doesn't mean Windows can't balance that load across multiple CPUs just fine. Of course, if you only run one app at a time and it isn't capable by itself of taxing multiple CPUs, that does mean very little. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
01-31-2012
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By balance, do you mean to provide SOME type of functional CPU affinity?
I understand your point, but to be clear to readers, faster/fewer CPUs will finish work more quickly than more/slower (e.g. quad clock rate is less than duo clock rate) CPUs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core) Motherboard GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4G Graphics Card integrated ATI HD 4200 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Mouse Logitech WIRED! PSU Ultra X4 500W Case Ultra X-blaster Hard Drives 1 SATA (750GB, 32MB cache, 7200 RPM)
1 IDE (80GB, 8MB cache, 7200 RPM) Internet Speed 15 Mbps FIOS |
01-31-2012
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#4 | | Win 7 premium 64bit/Win Pro XP 32bit /Ubuntu 12.04 |
for graphic intensive and video processing and editing , the quad core would benefit you more. Such as applications like 3d max studio which involves making 3d models and texturing ,video rendering,Photoshop .... would benefit you more if you had more then just two cores on your processor A duo core would be fine if your a usual user who browsers the internet and uses light graphic hungry applications or doesn't do many video edits to often and heavy video. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number me OS Win 7 premium 64bit/Win Pro XP 32bit /Ubuntu 12.04 CPU AMD Athlon II X4 640 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.1GHz|(O.C)3.4GHz Motherboard M5A78L-MLX Plus Memory 4096MB RAM DDR3 Graphics Card XFX HD 6870 1GB Sound Card Logitech Speakers (VIA High Definition Audio) Monitor(s) Displays 21inch monitor vga Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Microsoft USB Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 (IntelliType Pro) Mouse HP 1000dpi desktop mouse PSU CORSAIR CX600 600w Case AZZA Orion 202 EVO Cooling 4fans and cool master hyper TX3 cpu cooler Hard Drives 500gb hdd 7200rpm Western Digital Internet Speed 5.6mb down/ 0.55up yeah dsl i know it sucks Other Info just a dude who loves tech |
01-31-2012
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Correct, M1GU31. But, is the offset of getting that quad core benefit for video editing/3D worth the slower performance the rest of the time you use your PC? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core) Motherboard GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4G Graphics Card integrated ATI HD 4200 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Mouse Logitech WIRED! PSU Ultra X4 500W Case Ultra X-blaster Hard Drives 1 SATA (750GB, 32MB cache, 7200 RPM)
1 IDE (80GB, 8MB cache, 7200 RPM) Internet Speed 15 Mbps FIOS |
01-31-2012
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If the use of the PC is for that purpose, I'd say the trivial difference in performance with a slower CPU (Windows is *far* more I/O bound and blocked by disk performance than CPU performance with most modern CPUs, say since 2006 or so) more than makes up for better multithreaded performance in a video editing or 3D application. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
01-31-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti If the use of the PC is for that purpose, I'd say the trivial difference in performance with a slower CPU (Windows is *far* more I/O bound and blocked by disk performance than CPU performance with most modern CPUs, say since 2006 or so) more than makes up for better multithreaded performance in a video editing or 3D application. But with SSDs, might the nod now go to quads vs. duo?
I have wondered how the boot process with an SSD would go with more slower processors vs. fewer faster processors. I've not been able to find any benchmarks on this. Very curious. Since you can have 40,000+ IOPS, I would think having as many threads flinging I/Os to the contoller as fast as possible would be what is needed. IOW, turnaround time for initiating the next I/O should be virtually nil with SSDs and a quad. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core) Motherboard GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4G Graphics Card integrated ATI HD 4200 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Mouse Logitech WIRED! PSU Ultra X4 500W Case Ultra X-blaster Hard Drives 1 SATA (750GB, 32MB cache, 7200 RPM)
1 IDE (80GB, 8MB cache, 7200 RPM) Internet Speed 15 Mbps FIOS |
01-31-2012
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There is a problem with your argument...Dual-Core and Quad-Core processors pretty much have the same level of clockspeed available. (Both below are the highest rated clockspeeds without being Extreme Editions)
Intel Core i5-680 Clarkdale 3.6GHz Dual-Core Desktop Processor
For $335 Newegg.com
Intel Core i7-2700K Sandy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) Quad-Core Desktop Processor
For $370 Newegg.com
0.1 GHz difference, the Quad-Core gets an extra 0.3 GHz under load over the Dual-Core.
Only paying an extra $35 bucks for two more cores. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron e1705 OS Windows 7 (7600) x86 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 (2 GHz) Motherboard Unknown Dell MB Memory 2 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 (128 MB Dedicated) Sound Card SigmaTel HD Audio; Turtle Beach Audio Advantage SRM Monitor(s) Displays Laptop 17" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
01-31-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth There is a problem with your argument...Dual-Core and Quad-Core processors pretty much have the same level of clockspeed available. (Both below are the highest rated clockspeeds without being Extreme Editions) I don't keep track of the latest speeds, but thought the duos could plow more money into clock speed for the $ compared to a quad. If they are that similar, then /thread (pun intended). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core) Motherboard GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4G Graphics Card integrated ATI HD 4200 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Mouse Logitech WIRED! PSU Ultra X4 500W Case Ultra X-blaster Hard Drives 1 SATA (750GB, 32MB cache, 7200 RPM)
1 IDE (80GB, 8MB cache, 7200 RPM) Internet Speed 15 Mbps FIOS |
01-31-2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by JimLewandowski Pick the one with the higher Ghz (clock) rate unless you do have some applications (games, video processing?) that truly can simultaneously use more than 2 processors.
A word to the wise.
99% of the time, you won't have 4 running units of work.
Plenty of graphs of real application use show the faster duo finishing tasks more quickly. Are you saying quad cores can't match the clock speeds of dual cores? Why not go back to single core with high clock?
Also, the higher core computers often have a larger instruction set and more features than the lower core, which can be beneficial for certain applications. For example the i5 has turbo boost and the i3 doesn't - this will boost the frequency of a single core application. The i5 has AES instructions so will boost encryption but the i3 doesn't.
When you are comparing processor frequencies for a single core process on multi-core processor you have to take into consideration turbo-boost and the instruction set and chipset for that matter. You also have to consider that the OS takes advantage of more cores and that and programs are evolving to take advantage of more cores. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 2 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.256V 120 GFlop (with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card Asus Nvidia ENGTS450, 1GB 4030 MHz DDR5 clock, 915 Mhz GPU Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Antec TruePower New 650W Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM Hyper 212+ push/pull, 5 120mm, 1 140mm case fans Hard Drives Crucial 128GB M4 (system), 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x Seagate 750G Barracuda Internal (backups), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 320GB Internal, 1x Corsair F40 SSD for cache, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 25.7 Mb/s down, 4.5 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
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