| Windows 7: Limit RAM Cache? |
13 Feb 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Eagle River, Alaska |
Limit RAM Cache? How do I limit or reduce memory (RAM) caching? "Why would want that?"
Because my cache takes 4GB of memory, and I only have 6GB total. I'm already using 1.4GB for open applications, which only leaves me 400 - 900mb of RAM for a heavy graphic video game (I need approximately 2GB at the very minimum). FPS is ridiculously low (frame lag). | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway (Custom Rebuilt) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.66GHz (Q8400) Memory 6GB (DDR3) Graphics Card EVGA GeForce 460 GTX-SE (1GB GDDR5) Monitor(s) Displays Gateway 19" HD-Display Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU 570W Power Supply (Thermaltake) Case DX4710-05 Hard Drives 640GB @ 7200rpm Internet Speed 2mbps Download / 1mbps Upload (Wireless) |
13 Feb 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Eagle River, Alaska |
I think I found a temporary solution!
Is it a good idea to disable "Superfetch" before I play a graphically intense video game, and re-enable it after I'm finished? I'm finding this to be a good possibility for my needs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway (Custom Rebuilt) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.66GHz (Q8400) Memory 6GB (DDR3) Graphics Card EVGA GeForce 460 GTX-SE (1GB GDDR5) Monitor(s) Displays Gateway 19" HD-Display Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU 570W Power Supply (Thermaltake) Case DX4710-05 Hard Drives 640GB @ 7200rpm Internet Speed 2mbps Download / 1mbps Upload (Wireless) |
13 Feb 2012
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#3 | | Win 7 Ultimate x64 Etobicoke, Ontario |
How about you just leave it alone. Cache is just what it says it is. It will also be freed up the minute you start a game or something else that requires the memory. Can someone please explain cached memory? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Xonar DGX w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12 Internet Speed 24000/1000 |
13 Feb 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Eagle River, Alaska |
Didn't mean to upset you. As I said, it's for gaming. I know what caching does, but no memory frees when I start a game, at all. I have disabled Superfetch, and it's performance has increased significantly.
Thanks for the reply. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway (Custom Rebuilt) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.66GHz (Q8400) Memory 6GB (DDR3) Graphics Card EVGA GeForce 460 GTX-SE (1GB GDDR5) Monitor(s) Displays Gateway 19" HD-Display Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU 570W Power Supply (Thermaltake) Case DX4710-05 Hard Drives 640GB @ 7200rpm Internet Speed 2mbps Download / 1mbps Upload (Wireless) |
14 Feb 2012
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#5 | | |
I don't quite get that. Superfetch will preload frequently used applications, but if a running game requires RAM, it should replace the RAM used by the preloaded programs at no cost. Not arguing with what you see but maybe there is something more subtle at play.
Disabling superfetch before the game play should make no difference if it has already preloaded frequently accessed programs.
When you say no memory frees, what exactly do you mean? The working set of the game doesn't grow? How are you measuring this? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
WEI: CPU 7.7, Memory 7.8, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9 |
14 Feb 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64bit |
I set prefetch and superfetch to only cache the bios for that reseaon, I just hate seeing so much ram being used. Would use 1.50-2.25gb out of my 4gb and i got it down to 1.15 and I saw no benefit in leaving it on as it would run about the same. Only thing i left it cache was the bios for the faster boot but that's about it. Anyways reason i did this is because it be using around 3gbs out of 4 when gaming and now it only uses 2. I did it by following this tutorial here on sevenforums SuperFetch - Change Prefetch Data to be Cached[2]=Performance%20Maintenance | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number me OS Windows 7 Home premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 925 (Deneb) OC 3.4GHz Motherboard M5A78L-MLX Plus Memory 8192MB RAM DDR3 1600 Graphics Card XFX HD 6870 1GB (Connected via HDMI) Monitor(s) Displays Polaroid TLAC-02255 22" Digital HD LED TV and 17"LED Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 60Hz / 1280x1024 60Hz Keyboard Microsoft USB Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 (IntelliType Pro) Mouse Logitech Optical Gaming Mouse G400 PSU CORSAIR CX600 600w Case AZZA Orion 202 EVO with 3fans and a corsair af fan Cooling cooler master hyper TX3 cpu cooler Hard Drives 500gb hdd 7200rpm Western Digital Internet Speed 5.22Mbps download 0.65Mbps upload Antivirus Comodo Internet Security Browser IE 10 |
14 Feb 2012
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#7 | | Microsoft Windows 8 Professional |

Quote: Originally Posted by M1GU31 I set prefetch and superfetch to only cache the bios for that reseaon, I just hate seeing so much ram being used. Would use 1.50-2.25gb out of my 4gb and i got it down to 1.15 and I saw no benefit in leaving it on as it would run about the same. Only thing i left it cache was the bios for the faster boot but that's about it. Anyways reason i did this is because it be using around 3gbs out of 4 when gaming and now it only uses 2. I did it by following this tutorial here on sevenforums SuperFetch - Change Prefetch Data to be Cached[2]=Performance%20Maintenance If you disable one of the best performace options included on windows vista and seven, file and application prefetching, why dont you go back to XP then?
Prefecth does not steals memory, if you launch a game that requieres the memory used by prefetch it gets released and assigned to the needed application, and as stated o all computer related forums: Unused ram is wasted ram. | My System Specs | | OS Microsoft Windows 8 Professional CPU AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor Motherboard ECS A790GXM-AD3 Memory 16.00 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB Sound Card (1) C-Media PCI Audio Device (2) AMD HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG LS192WS Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 @ 32bit color Keyboard Dell SK-8115 Mouse Razer Copperhead PSU Corsair HX620 Case Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 + Artic Silver 3 on CPU/GPU Hard Drives (1) ST31000524AS SATA Disk Device (2) ST3500413AS SATA Disk Device AHCI mode enabled. |
14 Feb 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by OldMX 
Quote: Originally Posted by M1GU31 I set prefetch and superfetch to only cache the bios for that reseaon, I just hate seeing so much ram being used. Would use 1.50-2.25gb out of my 4gb and i got it down to 1.15 and I saw no benefit in leaving it on as it would run about the same. Only thing i left it cache was the bios for the faster boot but that's about it. Anyways reason i did this is because it be using around 3gbs out of 4 when gaming and now it only uses 2. I did it by following this tutorial here on sevenforums SuperFetch - Change Prefetch Data to be Cached[2]=Performance%20Maintenance If you disable one of the best performace options included on windows vista and seven, file and application prefetching, why dont you go back to XP then?
Prefecth does not steals memory, if you launch a game that requieres the memory used by prefetch it gets released and assigned to the needed application, and as stated o all computer related forums: Unused ram is wasted ram. Because windows 7 has dx11, that's why. And i like windows 7 whats wrong with me thinking differently from what you think if i see no benefit in leaving it on  Why would i go back to xp if I can do this and xp only supports dx9 so that is irrelevant to this topic.Plus i don't mind the 1sec difference for a application to open because anyways it will have to unload in the ram anyways, if it's just sitting there it's not helping or hurting me anyways. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number me OS Windows 7 Home premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 925 (Deneb) OC 3.4GHz Motherboard M5A78L-MLX Plus Memory 8192MB RAM DDR3 1600 Graphics Card XFX HD 6870 1GB (Connected via HDMI) Monitor(s) Displays Polaroid TLAC-02255 22" Digital HD LED TV and 17"LED Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 60Hz / 1280x1024 60Hz Keyboard Microsoft USB Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 (IntelliType Pro) Mouse Logitech Optical Gaming Mouse G400 PSU CORSAIR CX600 600w Case AZZA Orion 202 EVO with 3fans and a corsair af fan Cooling cooler master hyper TX3 cpu cooler Hard Drives 500gb hdd 7200rpm Western Digital Internet Speed 5.22Mbps download 0.65Mbps upload Antivirus Comodo Internet Security Browser IE 10 |
14 Feb 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |

Can you show us this on your computer so we can see what your ram is doing.
Go to Start and type in resmon | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
14 Feb 2012
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#10 | | Microsoft Windows 8 Professional |

Quote: Originally Posted by M1GU31 Because windows 7 has dx11, that's why. And i like windows 7 whats wrong with me thinking differently from what you think if i see no benefit in leaving it on  Why would i go back to xp if I can do this and xp only supports dx9 so that is irrelevant to this topic.Plus i don't mind the 1sec difference for a application to open because anyways it will have to unload in the ram anyways, if it's just sitting there it's not helping or hurting me anyways. Lol, seriously, with a radeon 5450 and gaming in dx11? Do you even have an idea about gaming in DX11? I bet you're one of the guys who vlite windows7 to get more fps on games. | My System Specs | | OS Microsoft Windows 8 Professional CPU AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor Motherboard ECS A790GXM-AD3 Memory 16.00 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB Sound Card (1) C-Media PCI Audio Device (2) AMD HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG LS192WS Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 @ 32bit color Keyboard Dell SK-8115 Mouse Razer Copperhead PSU Corsair HX620 Case Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 + Artic Silver 3 on CPU/GPU Hard Drives (1) ST31000524AS SATA Disk Device (2) ST3500413AS SATA Disk Device AHCI mode enabled. Limit RAM Cache? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:19 PM. | |