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Windows 7: recording videos to seperat hard drive


24 Feb 2012   #1

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recording videos to seperat hard drive

i know how to do this, this isnt my problem. i would like to know, if creating another partition, dedicated to media, would increase performance, and screen capture speed, like a seperate hard disk would. i dont think it would because its still running on the same sata cable, meaning the tranfer spead cant be dispersed, but i figured id ask to be sure. if i would get even a slight boost from this than i will defrag, and shrink my partition, and add another for media

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24 Feb 2012   #2

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton View Post
i know how to do this, this isnt my problem. i would like to know, if creating another partition, dedicated to media, would increase performance, and screen capture speed, like a seperate hard disk would. i dont think it would because its still running on the same sata cable, meaning the tranfer spead cant be dispersed, but i figured id ask to be sure. if i would get even a slight boost from this than i will defrag, and shrink my partition, and add another for media
I'd be surprised if you got any increase in performance. Indeed, I would not be surprised if you lost a little performance. As you said, you would have two writes to two partitions. If swap usage or any caching occurs on your C: drive, and then write(s) to your media drive you might see very small degredation.

But alot depends on the hard disk and interface. For example, any losses or gains on a 10000 RPM drive, on a sata 3 interface would be minimal. Also, if you have lots of memory, you would negate some possible performance hits, up to a point

I'm running a SSD for my boot and a 7200 WD black drive for my media. There is no noticable difference for me than when I had my media drive on separate partitions, and when I had it on a separate drive.
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24 Feb 2012   #3

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thornton View Post
i know how to do this, this isnt my problem. i would like to know, if creating another partition, dedicated to media, would increase performance, and screen capture speed, like a seperate hard disk would. i dont think it would because its still running on the same sata cable, meaning the tranfer spead cant be dispersed, but i figured id ask to be sure. if i would get even a slight boost from this than i will defrag, and shrink my partition, and add another for media
I'd be surprised if you got any increase in performance. Indeed, I would not be surprised if you lost a little performance. As you said, you would have two writes to two partitions. If swap usage or any caching occurs on your C: drive, and then write(s) to your media drive you might see very small degredation.

But alot depends on the hard disk and interface. For example, any losses or gains on a 10000 RPM drive, on a sata 3 interface would be minimal. Also, if you have lots of memory, you would negate some possible performance hits, up to a point

I'm running a SSD for my boot and a 7200 WD black drive for my media. There is no noticable difference for me than when I had my media drive on separate partitions, and when I had it on a separate drive.
so storing it on a different drive even isnt likely to help? not entierly supprised, but i am a little confused. i guess the way i understand this, is either way, it has to cache the frames its recording, so the only part thats gunna be spud up is the wright speed. meaning thats only a small portion of the process.

i also have to ask you, i am planning on getting another hard drive, and an ssd. i have had a pretty bad experience with WD and segate both, but did your WD drive come preloaded with software and drivers that are stored in 3d party memory, meaning it cant be removed?
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24 Feb 2012   #4

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You can speed up encoding processing by putting your temporary files on your SSD. This might shorten the lfespan of your SSD (Still not alot is known about SSD lifespans). You have to make a choice. A chunky system will also help encoding speed. (Ie memory and CPU).

Storing on a different drive on a different port will probably help some, because there is no head contention. I mean, the heads are moving more on a single drive writing to mutliple partitions. For video encoding help you might like to visit www.doom9.org or www.videohelp.com.

If you use a single partition on a mechanical drive or two partitions on a mechanical drive the performance difference isn't liklely to be subtantial. It might not even be noticable. Bigger disk caches (ie 32mb or 64mb), might also help a little, as opposed to 8 and 16mb caches.

Some disk drives write better than they read, some the other way around. There are many reviews out there on hard disk performance. Toms hardware is one place to start. (Tom's Hardware: Hardware News, Tests and Reviews), and an intersting review here http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.a...tno=511&pgno=4

I'm not aware of any 3rd party stuff being preinstalled on any drive I've ever purchased, and that would be in the thousands. If I ever found anything on the drive I'd be suspicious of whether it was second hand, and I would likely low level format it to wipe it.

I believe one of the members here, MilesAhead, is pretty up with video encoding. Perhaps if he is passing by he might be willing to offer a comment.
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24 Feb 2012   #5

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post
You can speed up encoding processing by putting your temporary files on your SSD. This might shorten the lfespan of your SSD (Still not alot is known about SSD lifespans). You have to make a choice. A chunky system will also help encoding speed. (Ie memory and CPU).

Storing on a different drive on a different port will probably help some, because there is no head contention. I mean, the heads are moving more on a single drive writing to mutliple partitions. For video encoding help you might like to visit www.doom9.org or www.videohelp.com.

If you use a single partition on a mechanical drive or two partitions on a mechanical drive the performance difference isn't liklely to be subtantial. It might not even be noticable. Bigger disk caches (ie 32mb or 64mb), might also help a little, as opposed to 8 and 16mb caches.

Some disk drives write better than they read, some the other way around. There are many reviews out there on hard disk performance. Toms hardware is one place to start. (Tom's Hardware: Hardware News, Tests and Reviews), and an intersting review here Tech ARP - Hard Disk Drive Performance Comparison Guide Rev. 4.7

I'm not aware of any 3rd party stuff being preinstalled on any drive I've ever purchased, and that would be in the thousands. If I ever found anything on the drive I'd be suspicious of whether it was second hand, and I would likely low level format it to wipe it.

I believe one of the members here, MilesAhead, is pretty up with video encoding. Perhaps if he is passing by he might be willing to offer a comment.
no, i have an ssd and an external hard drive, there is a chip in it with only a couple megs that intercepts and automatically installes sucky drivers is what i mean, doesnt matter if you wipe it, its not rewritable memory so it cant be touched without being removed. get what im saying? its not on the disk, its a third party assentially flash driver, inbedded in the board. both where bought in store, not used
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25 Feb 2012   #6

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Sorry, my bad.

No I have not seen this before. I've used only OCZ vertex and agility drives.

If the drive is store bought and has not been used, and the "sucky drivers" worry you then take the drive back and get a different brand.
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25 Feb 2012   #7

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post
Sorry, my bad.

No I have not seen this before. I've used only OCZ vertex and agility drives.

If the drive is store bought and has not been used, and the "sucky drivers" worry you then take the drive back and get a different brand.
not much i can do with them at this point, you kinda get pissed and deal cuz you needem. just wondering how your experience withem was.
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