| Windows 7: explorer.exe using most of my RAM |
12 Mar 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit Colorado |
explorer.exe using most of my RAM I have a USB 2.0 external drive plugged into a USB 3.0 port and am running a disk check. My explorer.exe RAM usage is ~75% of the total RAM, and my RAM is nearly maxed out because of it. Edit:This behavior is normal, I've found. It does the same on another system of mine. However, the system in my system specs keeps hanging when I move the mouse, and programs are slow to respond. I am running Norton Internet Security 2012 and was wondering if this might be the cause?
Obviously, I could remove Norton and see if the problem exists again during a disk check, but I would prefer not to go this route just yet. Figured someone might know if this is a known issue...
Last edited by writhziden; 12 Mar 2012 at 05:29 PM..
Reason: More specific information added
| My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter |
12 Mar 2012
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#2 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |
Of course you can get more detailed info using resource monitor. Any chance of getting a screenshot of it? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
12 Mar 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit Colorado |
Last edited by writhziden; 13 Mar 2012 at 08:56 AM..
Reason: Organization is clearer; steps taken and to take...
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter |
13 Mar 2012
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Note that commit is just the amount of memory reserved by an application or Windows - it doesn't mean it's actually been committed and used. In this case, with how odd this appears, it might be worth getting the output of RAMMap from sysinternals to get a raw view (screenies are nice, and file > save then uploading the output file would be cool as well). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
13 Mar 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate San Diego |
Well you may be able to turn off Norton's real time disk checking if it can be. But...
The Disk Check is a MASSIVE amount of disk IO which will slow down everything in the system till it's over. Especially if it's an external drive. And the high ram usage isn't surprising, on Linux fsck has been known to fill all available ram then crash the system if the drive is too big. As slow as it is, it's only as fast as it is because it uses a huge amount of ram to cache the drive contents for checking.
Just leave the system alone and let it finish (or run it overnight). Really, you shouldn't even be using the drive it's checking while it's checking it anyway, that may slow it down even more. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Scratch built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU i7 960 Motherboard Asus P6X58D Memory 12 Gig Corsair Dominator Graphics Card Nvidia 480 Sound Card Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech G15 + N52 game pad Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corasair TX850 Case Cooler Master HAF Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode. Internet Speed 15kbs down 4.5kbps up Other Info WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
Hard disk 7.7 |
13 Mar 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit Colorado |

Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti Note that commit is just the amount of memory reserved by an application or Windows - it doesn't mean it's actually been committed and used. In this case, with how odd this appears, it might be worth getting the output of RAMMap from sysinternals to get a raw view (screenies are nice, and file > save then uploading the output file would be cool as well). This is exactly what I was looking for earlier. Thank you! I have uploaded the RMP file (or tried to, but it exceeds the forum size limit); I do not really know what I am looking for in the program snapshot of my RAM, so maybe you can help guide me. I do see that there is a lot of paging of data by Macrium Reflect, and I assume that since this is mapping the RAM, that means that data is being paged into the RAM.
I found some information from Macrium support representatives regarding this issue, and they blame the file system drivers, hard disk controller drivers, or the devices themselves for the slow down. Macrium Support Forum - How do I stop reflect using entire RAM? Macrium Support Forum - Exploring images slows down my computer 
Quote: Originally Posted by fseal Well you may be able to turn off Norton's real time disk checking if it can be. But...
The Disk Check is a MASSIVE amount of disk IO which will slow down everything in the system till it's over. Especially if it's an external drive. And the high ram usage isn't surprising, on Linux fsck has been known to fill all available ram then crash the system if the drive is too big. As slow as it is, it's only as fast as it is because it uses a huge amount of ram to cache the drive contents for checking.
Just leave the system alone and let it finish (or run it overnight). Really, you shouldn't even be using the drive it's checking while it's checking it anyway, that may slow it down even more. Thank you as well for your info. I was not aware until yesterday that the disk check consumed RAM, especially from external media.
As I said, I have uninstalled Norton, disabled it, gone so far as to do a clean install where Norton never existed on the system, and the problem remains. The system becomes a bit sluggish as more RAM is used.
I also found some information regarding the disk check utilizing a lot of RAM. It appears to be normal behavior. I am hoping increasing my RAM will help. My desktop has 6 GB and does not slow down as noticeably, but it is still somewhat noticeable... Windows 7 chkdsk memory leak? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter |
13 Mar 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate San Diego |
Normally it's not something you need to do very often if ever. So unlike backup or something that is meant to be run every day or every week, CheckDisk was not made to be "nice" and work in the background. It's more of a "Stop everything and emergency check the sanity of this disk" kind of thing. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Scratch built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU i7 960 Motherboard Asus P6X58D Memory 12 Gig Corsair Dominator Graphics Card Nvidia 480 Sound Card Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech G15 + N52 game pad Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corasair TX850 Case Cooler Master HAF Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode. Internet Speed 15kbs down 4.5kbps up Other Info WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
Hard disk 7.7 |
13 Mar 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit Colorado |
That makes sense. I know in XP, it was able to run in the background, but I read in that link I posted that memory management changed in Vista for disk check tasks. In the future, I may just run the disk checks in the recovery environment if I need to. I was running one on this disk because of the Macrium hang ups and was wondering if it was due to file system errors or bad sectors. The drive came up clean, so it probably won't need to be checked again for a long time. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter |
13 Mar 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
If you zip your file you should be able to upload it OK. A .zip can be up to 8MB. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
13 Mar 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit Colorado |
The .zip was 8.50 MB.  I posted the screenshots, so hopefully those will work. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
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