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Windows 7: Registry Cleaners

26 May 2012   #61
gregrocker

 

No prob Pilgrim we are all learning here. There is just a very low tolerance for Reg Cleaners since we've seen the problems they cause.

Burdus, Perfect Disk also has a boot time defrag which gets System Files but it is harder to access than Puran's. Plus I like including Disk Check when defragging to get everything checked at once.


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26 May 2012   #62
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
No prob Pilgrim we are all learning here. There is just a very low tolerance for Reg Cleaners since we've seen the problems they cause.

Burdus, Perfect Disk also has a boot time defrag which gets System Files but it is harder to access than Puran's. Plus I like including Disk Check when defragging to get everything checked at once.
One thing I have noticed about PerfectDisk is when using the SmartOptimize feature it ALWAYS wipes out my System Restore Points. I've tried excluding the System Volume Information folder and changing the VSS compatible mode options but it still deletes them all.

Anyway, I'm digressing.
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26 May 2012   #63
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

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Speaking as someone who both runs registry cleaners and installs software on a regular basis I have rarely installed a program that did not add something that was not necessary, be it registry keys or temporary files which do not get removed.
Even Microsoft programs and updates do it.
I know what you mean, I just find it strange it would pick up it's own unnecessary registry keys straight after install. Not saying it's a bad product though, I just avoid them due to bad experiences I've had myself.
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26 May 2012   #64
anaron

Windows 7 Pro 64 bitv & Windows 10 Home
 
 

Decide to run a test with one of my Granddaughters Win7 Pro laptops that had become so slow that she would no longer use it.

Installed Restart-Time.vbs & CCleaner
Set a restore point.
Ran Restart 4 times with an average of 108 sec start time.

Ran disk cleanup then Restart-Time 4 times for an average of 95 sec start time
Restored to my restore point

Ran Ccleaner system & registry with everything checked then Restart-Time 4 times for an average of 63 sec start time
Restored to my restore point

Killed all the startup programs except antivirus then Restart-Time 4 times for an average
of 88 sec start time.
Restored to my restore point

Conduct 3 of the above in exactly the same order as doing the individuals but with no restart between
then Restart-Time 4 times for an average of 49 sec start time. 59 seconds knocked off the start time.

Almost a week now, not one issue and she swears it is faster than it was when it was new!

Question for those who say there is no performance gain from cleaning – What would you attribute the 59 second decrease in start time to?

Ron Burnes
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26 May 2012   #65
marsmimar

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by anaron View Post
Question for those who say there is no performance gain from cleaning – What would you attribute the 59 second decrease in start time to?
Cleaning out temporary files, history, cookies, autocomplete form history, index.dat, etc. The cleaning module of CCleaner has been known to speed up computer performance. Unlikely that the registry module added any significant improvement to startup time or overall performance.
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27 May 2012   #66
Pilgrim

Windows 7 Professional SP1 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
There is just a very low tolerance for Reg Cleaners since we've seen the problems they cause.
Forgive my coming back on this but I have never questioned the reasons of people who are against the use of this type of software or the problems that can be caused by it, in fact I always emphasise extreme caution to anyone using them myself.
It is the black and white attitude that often goes with it that I take issue with.

There are many things that are 'dangerous' (?) in our daily lives, not just dangerous to the wellbeing of our computers but to life itself.
If I knock somebody down in my car or drive it into a wall is the car to blame?
If that did happen would it then be right for me to say that nobody should use a car?
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27 May 2012   #67
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

You have to remember we aren't just giving one on one advice that applies to one person and their specific situation. While the original poster is the one we are helping, the posts can be read by thousands, whose individual situations are quite different. Since the possibility is very high using a cleaner can cause damage, it is better to warn against their use, especially since they would rarely actually solve any problems. There are certainly individuals who should never drive a car. A Guy
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27 May 2012   #68
JMH

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1.
 
 

Pilgrim,
IMHO.
With respect...

It is important for us to always remember that the people we give advice to are not always blessed with the same knowledge / ability & experience we have.

Therefore sometimes it is necessary to err on the side of caution.
Our personal experience is often irrelevant.


BTW, Well said Bill!
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27 May 2012   #69
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Absolutely.
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27 May 2012   #70
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Kudo's Bill.

Let me add my voice to those espousing extreme caution.
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