| Windows 7: Registry Cleaners |
19 May 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Pro 64 bit Kingsland Texas |
Registry Cleaners There are three distinct thoughts on registry cleaners – the do’s, the do not’s, and the group that just spouts information they have read somewhere else with no actual experience whatsoever with registry cleaners. The do's have had excellent results with registry cleaners whereas the do not’s have not had good experiences. Confusing? Most definitely, to the unknowledgeable everyday user that read the “experts” comments. However, I have an issue accepting the many broad statements pertaining to Windows 7 & registry cleaners given but rarely substantiated with facts. This is not a discussion on what cleaners, procedures to follow or whether or not to use cleaners. I would (and many others also) like for once to see facts and information that substantiate these three statements that experts on this site have stated numerous times: 1. Never use a registry cleaner on Win 7. 2. Registry cleaners do more harm than good. 3. There are no good registry cleaners. Me, I am old school and have had excellent results with registry cleaners. Given that, Win 7 is a new beast and one that appears to be far more stable than any previous OS. I am always open to updating the way I do things but I need facts in order to do that. Ron Burnes | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Computer by ME OS Windows 7 Pro 64 bit CPU Intel i7-2600k 3.06 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3 Memory 16 GB GSkill F3-10666CL7Q Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB 256-b Sound Card onboard for now Monitor(s) Displays Dual AOC 2770VH1 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech K120 Mouse Logitech Trackball T-BC21 PSU Antec EarthWatts EA750 Case Antec Sonata Elite Cooling 120 mm Antec System Fan & 120 Antec rear exhaust fan Hard Drives 2 - Muskin Chronos Deluxe 120 GB SSD
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19 May 2012
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#2 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |
IMHO
1-Used with care in "knowledgeable" users the risk is acceptable.
2-They can, but again read the manual and minimize the risk
3-Good is relative, better than most Ccleaner.
Your post sounds reasonable and experienced. You need to decide if the risk is worth the benefit.
There is little "benefit" unless the case is extreme.
I would not recommend their use to standard users, more advanced users I say caveat emptor. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
19 May 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
You mention that Windows 7 appears to be far more stable than any previous operating system and I wouldn't disagree with that.
I've been using Windows 7 for three years with nary a registry cleaner in sight.
In my view, if you: - Create a system image backup on a regular basis.
- Use System Restore as and when necessary.
- Use Previous Versions when needed.
- Take advantage of Last Known Good Configuration.
- Keep away from dodgy websites.
- Be meticulous in what you download.
- Use Microsoft Security Essentials.
you should have no need of a registry cleaner, although many people do put a high value on CCleaner. Registry cleaner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As ever, it's a personal choice, but an informed debate on the matter will do no harm at all.
Without a shadow of doubt though, a registry cleaner in inexperienced hands can mess up a computer very quickly. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
19 May 2012
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#4 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
I'd not use a Registry Cleaner except for CCleaner Disk and Registry tabs approx monthly, less often if it doesn't find a lot of crap to clean up.
Most Registry Cleaners are sales scams which cause problems with Windows 7. None have the genius invested that does CCleaner which is perhaps the most respected little app in the entire tech world. | My System Specs | | |
19 May 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
Using a registry cleaner when you are knowledgeable, and prepared with system backups is one thing. Recommending a registry cleaner to another, especially when thousands may see the post and take the recommendation, is quite another. I would feel safe universally recommending CCleaner, but no other programs, even if I have used them safely myself. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
19 May 2012
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#6 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |

Quote: Originally Posted by anaron I would (and many others also) like for once to see facts and information that substantiate these three statements...
... Me, I am old school and have had excellent results with registry cleaners. Ron Burnes Can you provide facts and information that substantiate your "excellent results" improvements using registry cleaners? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
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LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
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19 May 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |
I think most would consider running a cleaner, which showed results, and didn't bork their system as excellent results  Fixing problems, or making the system perform better, I would defy anyone to show proof of that. A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera |
19 May 2012
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#8 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
I agree, but just because someone doesn't have an immediate problem, doesn't mean a "registry clean" might not cause problems in the future.
I've never used one in Win 7 and my systems are installed for 2+ years.
No problems here and my hardware is ancient by today's standards... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
19 May 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Pacific Northwest |
I've been using CCleaner for HD & Registry stuff for years, no problems with it. To me it's like taking out the leftover trash in the registry, say after uninstalling a program. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus V2-M3M8200 Barebones OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 925 Motherboard V2-M3M8200 (basically a M3N78-VM) Memory 4x1024mb Kingston HyperX DDR2-1066 KHX8500D2/1G Graphics Card Asus GTS 450 OC Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCIe Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD VH242H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Dell USB mini Multimedia Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Antec Earthwatts EA-430D Case Asus V2-M3M8200 Cooling 120mm side fan & 80mm front & 92mm rear fan Hard Drives WDC WD5000AAKS
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20 May 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Bay Area Peninsula |

Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW7ncus I agree, but just because someone doesn't have an immediate problem, doesn't mean a "registry clean" might not cause problems in the future.
I've never used one in Win 7 and my systems are installed for 2+ years.
No problems here and my hardware is ancient by today's standards... I would also agree that just because things generally seem to be working after using a cleaner, doesn't mean something will not crop up later. And one might not even make the connection if it is a certain amount of time after the cleaning.
Have a look at this thread, notice the statement in the 1st post: Quote: I used to be able to open .xml files in IE9, before I believe I delete some stuff from the registry.(Windows Restore was turned off) IE9 No Longer able to Open .XML
This could easily be an outcome of using a registry cleaner. Although I will again state that I have yet to see anyone having an issue with CCleaner
A Guy | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU INTEL Core i5-750 Quad-Core 3.37GHz Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory KINGSTON 4GB (2 x 2GB) HyperX PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 Graphics Card MSI N240GT-MD1G/D5 GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster B2430H 24" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU ANTEC TruePower New TP-550, 80 PLUS, 550W Case ANTEC Three Hundred Illusion Cooling COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus, 4 x 120mm 1 x 140mm Noctua's Hard Drives Intel X25M Gen2 80GB, SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda® 7200.12, SATA 3 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 16MB cache Internet Speed 20 + Mbps Antivirus Avast Browser Opera Registry Cleaners problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:12 PM. | |