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Windows 7: Slow boot with M4 Crucial after re-install of Windows


08 Aug 2012   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Slow boot with M4 Crucial after re-install of Windows

The video explains it all..



Let me know if you have anything words of wisdom! Thanks

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09 Aug 2012   #2

Windows 7 ultimate x64
 
 

We would really appreciate if you could provide us with the logs.... use this to post the files..

Second if you need to know your boot time and whats causing this.... Look into Event Viewer > Applications and Service Logs > Microsoft > Windows > Diagnostic-Performance > Operational... check here.... it willl show your last boot in milliseconds... divide that by 1000.. to get you seconds..... there should also be some errors or warning to give you an idea what you are dealing with
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09 Aug 2012   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by centaur78 View Post
We would really appreciate if you could provide us with the logs.... use this to post the files..

Second if you need to know your boot time and whats causing this.... Look into Event Viewer > Applications and Service Logs > Microsoft > Windows > Diagnostic-Performance > Operational... check here.... it willl show your last boot in milliseconds... divide that by 1000.. to get you seconds..... there should also be some errors or warning to give you an idea what you are dealing with
52 seconds is my boot time, checked it the other night. I'll post logs in a few.
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09 Aug 2012   #4

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MS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
 
 

Did you install all your drivers after reinstall? chipset drivers, gfx drivers, audio etc...

Also look in device manager see if there is any drivers missing, another thing to check is msconfig to see what programs are starting at boot up.
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09 Aug 2012   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
Did you install all your drivers after reinstall? chipset drivers, gfx drivers, audio etc...

Also look in device manager see if there is any drivers missing, another thing to check is msconfig to see what programs are starting at boot up.
msconfig; disabled all unnecessary startup crap the other day before making my video

i reinstalled all drivers after windows install, i have a notecard with about 10 drivers on it that i checked off when they were installed properly :P

device manager: every section/tab of device manager is perfect, no marks at all.
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09 Aug 2012   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by centaur78 View Post
We would really appreciate if you could provide us with the logs.... use this to post the files..

Second if you need to know your boot time and whats causing this.... Look into Event Viewer > Applications and Service Logs > Microsoft > Windows > Diagnostic-Performance > Operational... check here.... it willl show your last boot in milliseconds... divide that by 1000.. to get you seconds..... there should also be some errors or warning to give you an idea what you are dealing with
Logs attached!


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10 Aug 2012   #7

Windows 7 ultimate x64
 
 

Alright

here is something you can do..... Enable the Verbose status message.... This will show you at the logon and shutdown screen, what apps,services etc are started before logon and stop before shutdown... this should give you an idea of whats holding up your boot time

Follow these steps:
  1. Click Start, and then click Run.
  2. In the Open box, type gpedit.msc, and then click OK.
  3. Expand Computer Configuration, expand Administrative Templates, and then click System.
  4. In the right pane, double-click Verbose vs normal status messages.
  5. Click Enabled, and then click OK.
  6. Close Group Policy Object Editor, and then click OK.

Let me know whats holding up.....

Also on the side note; please do check you temps.... they are way high ..... 379K or 105.85 deg C.... try cleaning the fans and heat sinks for dust...if its not dust ... check if the thermal paste is properly spread and used..

And one more thing...

Try disabling the below startup.... and also disable the AMD service from Services as well.

Code:
HDAudDeck    REG_SZ    C:\Program Files (x86)\VIA\VIAudioi\VDeck\VDeck.exe -r
StartCCC    REG_SZ    "C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CLIStart.exe" MSRun
AMD AVT    REG_SZ    Cmd.exe /c start "AMD Accelerated Video Transcoding device initialization" /min "C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD AVT\bin\kdbsync.exe" aml
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10 Aug 2012   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by centaur78 View Post
Alright

here is something you can do..... Enable the Verbose status message.... This will show you at the logon and shutdown screen, what apps,services etc are started before logon and stop before shutdown... this should give you an idea of whats holding up your boot time

Follow these steps:
  1. Click Start, and then click Run.
  2. In the Open box, type gpedit.msc, and then click OK.
  3. Expand Computer Configuration, expand Administrative Templates, and then click System.
  4. In the right pane, double-click Verbose vs normal status messages.
  5. Click Enabled, and then click OK.
  6. Close Group Policy Object Editor, and then click OK.

Let me know whats holding up.....

Also on the side note; please do check you temps.... they are way high ..... 379K or 105.85 deg C.... try cleaning the fans and heat sinks for dust...if its not dust ... check if the thermal paste is properly spread and used..

And one more thing...

Try disabling the below startup.... and also disable the AMD service from Services as well.

Code:
HDAudDeck    REG_SZ    C:\Program Files (x86)\VIA\VIAudioi\VDeck\VDeck.exe -r
StartCCC    REG_SZ    "C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CLIStart.exe" MSRun
AMD AVT    REG_SZ    Cmd.exe /c start "AMD Accelerated Video Transcoding device initialization" /min "C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD AVT\bin\kdbsync.exe" aml
Idk where you are getting those temps from but they definitely are not correct. Core temp is showing my processor idling at 35 deg C and it never goes about 45 deg C in-game. Also, my case is 100% clean of dust and my processor/heatsink is about a month to two months old with new Arctic Silver on it.

BUT I will try all the other suggestions you made and give this another go..

EDIT: Tried your suggestions and it still took the same amount of time. It's weird because it sits on the blue windows loading screen for like 30 seconds saying "Preparing Your Desktop.."
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10 Aug 2012   #9

Windows 7 ultimate x64
 
 

First the temps are from your logs... i cant make that up !!!! this below is the latest and there are more

Quote:
Event[24775]:
Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 2012-08-09T12:14:17.712
Event ID: 89
Task: N/A
Level: Information
Opcode: Info
Keyword: N/A
User: S-1-5-18
User Name: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: Sean-PC
Description:
ACPI thermal zone ACPI\ThermalZone\TZ00 has been enumerated.
_PSV = 0K
_TC1 = 0
_TC2 = 0
_TSP = 0ms
_AC0 = 358K
_AC1 = 328K
_AC2 = 273K
_AC3 = 273K
_AC4 = 273K
_AC5 = 0K
_AC6 = 0K
_AC7 = 0K
_AC8 = 0K
_AC9 = 0K
_CRT = 379K
_HOT = 0K
_PSL - see event data.

Event[24776]:
Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 2012-08-09T12:14:17.712
Event ID: 89
Task: N/A
Level: Information
Opcode: Info
Keyword: N/A
User: S-1-5-18
User Name: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: Sean-PC
Description:
ACPI thermal zone ACPI\ThermalZone\TZ01 has been enumerated.
_PSV = 379K
_TC1 = 1
_TC2 = 5
_TSP = 1000ms
_AC0 = 0K
_AC1 = 0K
_AC2 = 0K
_AC3 = 0K
_AC4 = 0K
_AC5 = 0K
_AC6 = 0K
_AC7 = 0K
_AC8 = 0K
_AC9 = 0K
_CRT = 379K
_HOT = 0K
_PSL - see event data.
_CRT is Temperature to start critical shutdown.... These are the ACPI temperatures..... (this has occured more than 116 times starting from 28th June 2012 till date)... Check you logs if you want. Please do note that this temps what you see here is the max the CPU has gone to at that particular time frame. it could be anything that has caused this... and no you cant measure these with coretemp.. unless if there is logging feature.. And i did mention it for your information ...if you feel it not important, please disregard this...


Next off to find what is hogging the startup please follow the steps below
Quote:
  1. Download Process Monitor. Unzip the file and open Procmon.exe with administrative privileges:
  2. Stop Process Monitor from logging all the current events by clicking on “File/Capture Events.” Now go to “Options,” where you will find the crucial entry: “Enable Boot Logging.” Enable it, click on “Generate profiling events” and click “OK.”
  3. Now reboot your PC. After the startup process is done, launch Process Monitor again and click on “Yes” once you see the following message:
  4. Save the boot log wherever you want (on your desktop, for example). Process Monitor now generates a huge list of basically each and every boot event.
  5. Upload the bootlog.pml file here
Thirdly could you also upload operational logs of Diagnostics-Performance along with the above bootlog.pml file.
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17 Aug 2012   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by centaur78 View Post
First the temps are from your logs... i cant make that up !!!! this below is the latest and there are more

Quote:
Event[24775]:
Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 2012-08-09T12:14:17.712
Event ID: 89
Task: N/A
Level: Information
Opcode: Info
Keyword: N/A
User: S-1-5-18
User Name: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: Sean-PC
Description:
ACPI thermal zone ACPI\ThermalZone\TZ00 has been enumerated.
_PSV = 0K
_TC1 = 0
_TC2 = 0
_TSP = 0ms
_AC0 = 358K
_AC1 = 328K
_AC2 = 273K
_AC3 = 273K
_AC4 = 273K
_AC5 = 0K
_AC6 = 0K
_AC7 = 0K
_AC8 = 0K
_AC9 = 0K
_CRT = 379K
_HOT = 0K
_PSL - see event data.

Event[24776]:
Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
Date: 2012-08-09T12:14:17.712
Event ID: 89
Task: N/A
Level: Information
Opcode: Info
Keyword: N/A
User: S-1-5-18
User Name: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: Sean-PC
Description:
ACPI thermal zone ACPI\ThermalZone\TZ01 has been enumerated.
_PSV = 379K
_TC1 = 1
_TC2 = 5
_TSP = 1000ms
_AC0 = 0K
_AC1 = 0K
_AC2 = 0K
_AC3 = 0K
_AC4 = 0K
_AC5 = 0K
_AC6 = 0K
_AC7 = 0K
_AC8 = 0K
_AC9 = 0K
_CRT = 379K
_HOT = 0K
_PSL - see event data.
_CRT is Temperature to start critical shutdown.... These are the ACPI temperatures..... (this has occured more than 116 times starting from 28th June 2012 till date)... Check you logs if you want. Please do note that this temps what you see here is the max the CPU has gone to at that particular time frame. it could be anything that has caused this... and no you cant measure these with coretemp.. unless if there is logging feature.. And i did mention it for your information ...if you feel it not important, please disregard this...


Next off to find what is hogging the startup please follow the steps below
Quote:
  1. Download Process Monitor. Unzip the file and open Procmon.exe with administrative privileges:
  2. Stop Process Monitor from logging all the current events by clicking on “File/Capture Events.” Now go to “Options,” where you will find the crucial entry: “Enable Boot Logging.” Enable it, click on “Generate profiling events” and click “OK.”
  3. Now reboot your PC. After the startup process is done, launch Process Monitor again and click on “Yes” once you see the following message:
  4. Save the boot log wherever you want (on your desktop, for example). Process Monitor now generates a huge list of basically each and every boot event.
  5. Upload the bootlog.pml file here
Thirdly could you also upload operational logs of Diagnostics-Performance along with the above bootlog.pml file.
What do you suggest I do about my temperatures? I have no idea.

And i uploaded my bootlog.pml file

I'm confused with what operational logs you want/where they are. Also, I just moved into my dorm in college so that's why I haven't responded for awhile, i've been having a great time
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