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Windows 7: Startup programs not starting on boot

28 Aug 2012   #31
MightyDrake

Win 7 64 Pro SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wzeallor View Post
I've not experienced this issue since updating the video card. However, one time Chrome did not load but this version of Chrome has major bugs anyway. Drake, are you sure that all of your services are starting up? Some of mine weren't and I wouldn't know until I loaded iTunes and my iPhone was unlisted. I swear this has to do with a conflict between a Windows update and software. My computer's been consistent until this issue.
I guess you're right. I see DU Meter and Steam under Services, and neither appears to be running. I don't see any pattern to which is running and which isn't.

Drake


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28 Aug 2012   #32
MightyDrake

Win 7 64 Pro SP1
 
 

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sky drive, drop box adobe reader and such just normal programmes.

interestingly i just reinstalled my os and it did it a few times while doing updates.

though i don't think i have the same issue as your describing.
Odd. You used msconfig or some similar utility to disable them? I guess the updates rewrite part of the registry and don't honor those settings.

Drake
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31 Aug 2012   #33
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

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(The animated smilies on the side of this editor are fairly annoying. I wish forum software would give me the option to use non-animated images.)
Hi,

FYI - you can turn off smilies in the Quick Editor Options as shown below.

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31 Aug 2012   #34
MightyDrake

Win 7 64 Pro SP1
 
 

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FYI - you can turn off smilies in the Quick Editor Options as shown below.

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Golden
Thanks. I'm familiar with that. My preference isn't for *no* smilies. It's for non-animated smilies. The animated ones are cute. I don't mind seeing them in a message for a little bit. But after a few seconds I'd like to switch to a non-animated version.

I've taken a couple of days off of fighting this darn thing. I plan on getting back to it in a day or two.

Drake
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19 Oct 2012   #35
wzeallor

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

The update of the video card driver did not work. I figured out that it occurs on reboots subsequent to a program creating a notification icon that is new to the notification area.

The program that created the icon doesn't even have to be set to run at start-up. Whatever screws with the loading of programs at start-up occurs when the new notification icon is created. I'm guessing that start-up loading stops when Windows comes across the entry for the new notification icon.

To alleviate this, I had to reset the tray notifications cache. I unchecked "Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar" and I select "Show icons and notifications" for the icons. I hope that this will be fixed in Windows 8.
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27 Nov 2012   #36
MightyDrake

Win 7 64 Pro SP1
 
 

I promised I would come back and report.

I never did figure out what was wrong. I was just living with it. I set up a .bat file to run most of the stuff for me each time I booted.

Last week, it hung after installing an update. I couldn't get it to finish booting. I tried a couple of things to revive it, but finally gave up. I don't know if that was related to the startup issues I've been having all along.

Since the hard disk is approaching 3 years old, and Google's stats indicates that's when hard disk mortality begins to climb, I decided to go ahead and proactively replace it. I'm all backed up, but I think it's actually going to be easier to pull off just the stuff I want from the old hard drive, rather than go through the backup system to get at it.

It was a frustrating issue. I still think that if I could have found the correct diagnostic tool I would have found the problem. Two or three times in the last few months, it did boot up correctly. That proves that it was capable of working. Wish I could have figured it out.

Drake
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30 Nov 2012   #37
panamapat

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 
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After fighting this for weeks, it seems that I found a way to resolve the programs not starting up. I'm not sure why, but one of the programs set for automatic startup was fouling up the works for the rest of them. Eliminating the one programs from the startup list solved it and now all programs are loading properly.

To find out which was the errant program, I ran MSCONFIG and first cleared all Startup programs, then added the first 10 and rebooted and sure enough a few started to boot up. I kept on trying the next group of 10, rebooted and eventually I could tell when suddenly they all stopped loading. It ended up being Logitech Desktop Messenger and once I removed it, all program started to load again.

Will see if this last - but for the last half dozen reboots, it seems back to normal!
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30 Nov 2012   #38
MightyDrake

Win 7 64 Pro SP1
 
 

*slaps forehead*

What a great idea. I have a former colleague who used to do that sort of thing. He called it "Shaking the box" to see if he could alter the behavior in a way that provided clues. But that particular twist didn't occur to me.

I had a Logitech keyboard and mouse on that system when all this started, so that easily could have been the problem with mine. I don't remember if I had that program running at startup or not. As GregRocker would be quick to point out, that's pretty much an unnecessary program, anyway.

Drake
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30 Nov 2012   #39
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Mighty Drake I'm glad you got it figured out. What programs start up on a boot is pretty much up to the owner operator of the computer. I only have 3 things in Start Up checked. Everything else starts when I tell it to (tick on it) and closes when I tell it to. They don't run in the background unless I choose them to. It allows quicker boots and all around faster responding computer. As you found out Start Up can also be used to trouble shoot. Many of us at times have used it just for that.
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30 Nov 2012   #40
gregrocker

 

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To find out which was the errant program, I ran MSCONFIG and first cleared all Startup programs, then added the first 10 and rebooted and sure enough a few started to boot up. I kept on trying the next group of 10, rebooted and eventually I could tell when suddenly they all stopped loading. It ended up being Logitech Desktop Messenger and once I removed it, all program started to load again.

Will see if this last - but for the last half dozen reboots, it seems back to normal!
Why would you want all of those programs starting up and freeloading on your RAM, CPU and Startup time? Most often the reply is that they wouldn't be set to startup if they weren't needed. This is completely false. They start up because each has found a way to spy on you and sell that information more profitably than the value of their own software.

This couldn't be clearer in Win7 since you don't even have to sort through the needed services to disable everything under msconfig>Startup and msconfig>Services (after hiding all MS Services) except your AV, gadgets, sync, stickies or messenger if you need them running from the get-go.
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