| Windows 7: Is leaving your computer on all the time (24/7) better for hard drive? |
04 Oct 2012
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Norfolk, VA |
Powering up is the most stressful activity a hard drive experiences. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770K Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
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04 Oct 2012
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#12 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Zepher Powering up is the most stressful activity a hard drive experiences. I wouldn't disagree with that. Like most things, it depends on usage. If you save nearly every machine you ever bought and add it to your local network, then you may wish to leave everything up 24/7. I'm probably similar to most users in that I'm cramped for space. Usually the PC becomes obsolete before anything major malfunctions. I didn't even start saving drives until they reached 200 GB and I bought a few docking stations. For most people the thing will be discarded because it's too slow not inability to boot. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center OS Windows 7 32 bit CPU AMD 5200+ dual core Memory 2 GB Graphics Card NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB Monitor(s) Displays CRT Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard PS/2 Mouse PS/2 Wheel Mouse Hard Drives 500 GB Sata internal :
SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives Other Info SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card. |
04 Oct 2012
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#13 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Goji73 Before my old hard drive went dead this past August, I got these messages that said problems where detected in the Hard Disk. Because error messages occur only on power on, the proves power on is destructive? Yes, for many. Instead, view the system (event) logs. Same problems were being reported mostly when the computer was not power cycling.
So the question, "Is power cycling destructive?" One who said so only using speculation and subjective reasoning said yes. Instead, let's read numbers. For example, the worst drive I ever saw was rated for 40,000 power cycles. That means power cycling seven times every day (even on holidays) results in a failure after ... 15 years. So power cycling is destructive. And perspective (the numbers) says nobody cares.
Why did that friend not include numbers? A majority will recommend on hearsay, myths, wild speculation ... and no numbers. A typical drive is rated for about 100,000 power cycles. Again, seven power cycles every day (including holidays) for ... 39 years.
If the answer does not include numbers, then suspect a scam. Power cycling is a myth easily promoted by junk science reasoning - answers without perspective - without numbers.
Most defects are manufacturing defects. Completely unrelated to power cycling. View system (event) logs to see that most failures occurred during normal operation.
Learn how to separate hearsay from knowledge. Subjective claims are best classified as urban myths. | My System Specs | | |
04 Oct 2012
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#14 | | |
It should be fine. Ive helped a lot of people with computer issues, and going to school for electrical engineering. specifically in the area of computers. and ive never seen a harddrive fail.
To be honest with you todays computer hardware is generally very reliable. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom/EVGA OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.40 GHz Motherboard MSI NF980-G65 Memory 8GB DDR3 Patriot Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Sound Card Realtek HD Audio & Creative Audigy Audio Processor Monitor(s) Displays 19" COBY 1080i Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard DELL Mouse DELL PSU Cooler Master GX 750 W Case EVGA Cooling Cooler Master GX 750 W Hard Drives Western Digital 250 GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s |
05 Oct 2012
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#15 | | Dual-boot: Windows 7 HP 32-bit SP1 & Windows XP Pro 32-bit SP2. Battle, near Hastings, UK |
I always turn off my PC and I never had any problems. But then it is only turned on about two-three times a day. So it is not much used, unlike some people. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Advent OS Dual-boot: Windows 7 HP 32-bit SP1 & Windows XP Pro 32-bit SP2. CPU AMD Phenom X4 9550 2.8Ghz Motherboard FOXCONN A6VMX (Socket 940) Memory 4.0GB RAM Graphics Card 256MB On-board ATI Radeon X1200 Series Sound Card UnKnown Monitor(s) Displays 19" TFT Mointor Screen Resolution 1400 by 900 Keyboard HP Keyboard Hard Drives 500GB Western Digital WDC Internet Speed Dial-up via Mobile phone (Three) Other Info 80GB External Hard-drive.
Also I have an old Windows XP Laptop for backup/occasional use etc. |
05 Oct 2012
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#16 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 Lost In Space, Vol 8-New Kind Of Kick |

Quote: Originally Posted by westom 
Quote: Originally Posted by Goji73 Before my old hard drive went dead this past August, I got these messages that said problems where detected in the Hard Disk. Because error messages occur only on power on, the proves power on is destructive? Yes, for many. Instead, view the system (event) logs. Same problems were being reported mostly when the computer was not power cycling.
So the question, "Is power cycling destructive?" One who said so only using speculation and subjective reasoning said yes. Instead, let's read numbers. For example, the worst drive I ever saw was rated for 40,000 power cycles. That means power cycling seven times every day (even on holidays) results in a failure after ... 15 years. So power cycling is destructive. And perspective (the numbers) says nobody cares.
Why did that friend not include numbers? A majority will recommend on hearsay, myths, wild speculation ... and no numbers. A typical drive is rated for about 100,000 power cycles. Again, seven power cycles every day (including holidays) for ... 39 years.
If the answer does not include numbers, then suspect a scam. Power cycling is a myth easily promoted by junk science reasoning - answers without perspective - without numbers.
Most defects are manufacturing defects. Completely unrelated to power cycling. View system (event) logs to see that most failures occurred during normal operation.
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SSD 60Go Sata 6Gb/s Antivirus MSE 4.2 Browser IE10 Rtm |
05 Oct 2012
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |
Mine gets turned on a max once a day. Same for powering off. There's absolutely no reason for my computers to be running when I'm asleep, so at night they get shut down. If I am home during the weekend, and I turn it on, I will leave it on during the day, in case I will use it again.
Power-cycling many times a day will surely reduce the life of a drive. Once a day or so, is definitely not hurting the drives. Think of it like a car. Turning it on and driving it somewhere, then turning it off, isn't bad for the car. Doing it 10 times a day...is bad for the car. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
06 Oct 2012
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#18 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Norfolk, VA |

Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost Mine gets turned on a max once a day. Same for powering off. There's absolutely no reason for my computers to be running when I'm asleep, so at night they get shut down. If I am home during the weekend, and I turn it on, I will leave it on during the day, in case I will use it again.
Power-cycling many times a day will surely reduce the life of a drive. Once a day or so, is definitely not hurting the drives. Think of it like a car. Turning it on and driving it somewhere, then turning it off, isn't bad for the car. Doing it 10 times a day...is bad for the car. Hybrids restart the gas motor many times a day. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HAL-9000 OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770K Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card XFX HD6950 2GB EyeFinity Sound Card Logitech G35 & Sennheiser PC135 & VIA HD Monitor(s) Displays 23" HP 2310e, 23" Samsung B2230, 21.5" Viewsonic Screen Resolution 5760x1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 and G13 Mouse Logitech G700 Gaming Mouse PSU Antec True Power New 650watt Case Cooler Master HAF-932 Cooling Corsair H60 Hydro Cooler, 3x 230mm Fans, 2x120mm Fan Hard Drives 16TB of Storage
128GB & 256GB Crucial M4 SSD's, 2X 1TB WD Black, 3x 2TB WD, 3x 2TB Samsung F4, 1.5TB Seagate, WD 500GB, Internet Speed 50/10 Mbit Other Info Speakers : Alesis M1 Active Mk2 Studio Monitors , APC RS 1200 UPS, HP 4500DN Color Laser, HP P1006 mono Laser, Kodak 8500 Dye-Sub, Epson 1280 inkjet, Epson Worforce 610 MFC |
06 Oct 2012
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#19 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |

Quote: Originally Posted by Goji73 I was told by someone in my family that it's better for a computer's hard drive and the computer itself to be running all the time (24/7) as turning it off actually does more harm or drains more energy out of the Hard Drive. Most HDDs I know if left idle for a while stop spinning at least and some even park their reading heads (depending on how it's set in power management and/or make/model), going to "sleep" state.
The difference between this and being shut down is minimal. I frequently abuse my hardware and software (hard shutdowns, weird programs and stuff), but never dropped a HDD, and in 5-6 years over multiple machines no HDD failed. I have a couple that acted weird since the beginning (even if I couldn't find any issue with them), but closed in an external enclosure they ran fine.
Since you seem to be killing HDDs at an unreasonable rate, I suspect there is some fault in your mobo. Post the errors you are getting and maybe someone can help find the culprit. Quote: Turning it on and driving it somewhere, then turning it off, isn't bad for the car. Doing it 10 times a day...is bad for the car. More for the car battery than for the engine itself. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 Quad-Core (a revision without the bug) Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay! |
06 Oct 2012
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#20 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost Mine gets turned on a max once a day. That's the way I do it. On in the morning, off at night. Only time I power completely down is due to an electrical storm. The land is very flat where I live. Even with UPS/surge box it's safer to power down during the lightning strikes.
Afa the energy saver drive spin down/spin up every 10 minutes. I never liked that idea. Just the inertia of spinning up a stationary platter has to produce some stress. At some point SSD will be the norm. We'll have a different argument then. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center OS Windows 7 32 bit CPU AMD 5200+ dual core Memory 2 GB Graphics Card NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB Monitor(s) Displays CRT Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard PS/2 Mouse PS/2 Wheel Mouse Hard Drives 500 GB Sata internal :
SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives Other Info SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card. Is leaving your computer on all the time (24/7) better for hard drive? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:09 PM. | |