| Windows 7: Is leaving your computer on all the time (24/7) better for hard drive? |
06 Oct 2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost Power-cycling many times a day will surely reduce the life of a drive. Once a day or so, is definitely not hurting the drives. So put numbers to it. Power cycling a drive 10 times a day for every day (including holidays) means the drive fails maybe ... 27 years later. So yes, it will fail sooner. Otherwise the drive might last 230 years. Nobody cares. A failure after 27 years or 230 years is no failure due to power cycling.
A useful answer includes perspective. That means numbers. Power cycling was destructive only when subjective claims (junk science) were considered. There never was a controversy about power cycling. There was, unfortunately, too many consumers who give credibility to hearsay. Subjective claims. Answers based only in wild speculation or observation. Those answers are quickly identified and disposed. No numbers means little credibility. | My System Specs |
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06 Oct 2012
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#22 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
I'm layed back and simple. Years ago when hard drives clanged and banged doing their/there job to a degree their/there was a concern with all the charts and grafts and how you used your hard drive. I don't believe that todays hard drives have that concern. Use your system as you see fit. If the hard drive fail it will not be because of the way your use it. Hard drive life span is controlled by the quality and standards it was made by. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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06 Oct 2012
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#23 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by westom 
Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost Power-cycling many times a day will surely reduce the life of a drive. Once a day or so, is definitely not hurting the drives. So put numbers to it. Power cycling a drive 10 times a day for every day (including holidays) means the drive fails maybe ... 27 years later. So yes, it will fail sooner. Otherwise the drive might last 230 years. Nobody cares. A failure after 27 years or 230 years is no failure due to power cycling.
A useful answer includes perspective. That means numbers. Power cycling was destructive only when subjective claims (junk science) were considered. There never was a controversy about power cycling. There was, unfortunately, too many consumers who give credibility to hearsay. Subjective claims. Answers based only in wild speculation or observation. Those answers are quickly identified and disposed. No numbers means little credibility. I think the numbers are not relevant unless you save every drive from every machine you ever owned. For the average user who puts the PC to the curb when it's too slow to use anymore, it doesn't matter. The machine becomes obsolete before the HW fails unless you're so unlucky you got a dud component that escaped QC testing.
Seems like this argument is obsolete too, to be honest. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center OS Windows 7 32 bit CPU AMD 5200+ dual core Memory 2 GB Graphics Card NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB Monitor(s) Displays CRT Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard PS/2 Mouse PS/2 Wheel Mouse Hard Drives 500 GB Sata internal :
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06 Oct 2012
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#24 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 Kentucky |

Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear I'm layed back and simple. Years ago when hard drives clanged and banged doing their/there job to a degree their/there was a concern with all the charts and grafts and how you used your hard drive. I don't believe that todays hard drives have that concern. Use your system as you see fit. If the hard drive fail it will not be because of the way your use it. Hard drive life span is controlled by the quality and standards it was made by.
This sums up what I believe to be the answer to the question at hand. Short of dropping it, submerging it in water, or scooting your feet across the carpet and zapping it, nothing you do to a HDD will be cause for concern. If it is bricked when you get it, it slipped through quality checks. If it works for a week and then dies, there was a manufacturing issue. If it runs for 20 years and then locks up, get over it. Just run one however you see fit, that's what they are built for.
Server/Enterprise grade HDD's are designed from the ground up to run 24/7, 365 days a year with as few interruptions as possible. They are more expensive though, and occasionally they do send one out that is bricked, or one that goes bad in a week. Nothing is immune to Murphy's Law. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz Graphics Card Intel HD4000 Sound Card Onboard Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2309W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard Mouse Logitech MX 500 Wired PSU Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular Case Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower Cooling Intel Liquid Cooler Hard Drives Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
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06 Oct 2012
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#25 | | Windows 8 Pro 64-Bit Pargas, Finland |
Yeah, Interesting topic. For me, my computer is turned off for about 5 hours a day, to save electricity costs when I'm not using it.
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07 Oct 2012
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#26 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by DanRex Yeah, Interesting topic. For me, my computer is turned off for about 5 hours a day, to save electricity costs when I'm not using it.
(Yeah, I'm Scrooge McDuck :P) Nobody know what toll cycling takes on a HD.
The general view I've seen by those I trust is that heat cycling is not good for electronic components. But that doesn't stop PC's that are turned off and on for years from running flawlessly for years.
I turn off lights when I won't be in a room for a while too.
Why waste power? You can get an estimate of power use for your PC, but 60-200 watts is typical. Even at idle most cpu's use 60 watts or so.
So would you leave a 60 watt bulb on for days at a time?
If yes, then leave your PC on.
I turn mine off if I know I won't be using it for a couple hours.
And I never leave the house with it running.
Power supplies sometimes fail, and shoot flames. Never happened to me, but I've read of it happening more than once when looking at PS reviews.
Best to keep papers and other flammable stuff away from the PC if you're leaving it running unattended.
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07 Oct 2012
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#27 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |
I actually saw some home servers that were run by less-than-optimal admins and some of the bunch were so full of dust that did actually catch fire and burn a bit. They managed to melt themselves and little more (they were in the basement of a brick house), but was pretty fun to arrive at the "disaster scene" with all that smoke to see if there was something left to save in their HDDs.
But that was an obvious human error, professional server farms don't have the habit of burning down every once in a while even if they run 24/7. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
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23 Oct 2012
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#28 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |

Quote: Originally Posted by MilesAhead Seems like this argument is obsolete too, to be honest.  
I leave mine on 24/7. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
23 Oct 2012
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#29 | | |
As long there is no bumps in the CPU while the hard disk is working,better hard disk cooling,etc there is nothing to worry about leaving your PC on for 24/7. | My System Specs | | |
23 Oct 2012
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#30 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |

Quote: Originally Posted by westom So put numbers to it. Power cycling a drive 10 times a day for every day (including holidays) means the drive fails maybe ... 27 years later. So yes, it will fail sooner. Otherwise the drive might last 230 years. Nobody cares. A failure after 27 years or 230 years is no failure due to power cycling. I sincerely hope you are joking with this comment. If not, I'm not entirely sure what to say. HDDs are mechanical parts, and the more wear and tear you put on them, the more you increase their chances of failure. Start your car several times a day, and you will increase your chances of a failure there, too. Common sense, basic principles. The numbers you are choosing to throw around are outlandish, at best, suiting only to make an argument where there is none. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS Is leaving your computer on all the time (24/7) better for hard drive? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:04 PM. | |