| Windows 7: Is leaving your computer on all the time (24/7) better for hard drive? |
03 Oct 2012
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Is leaving your computer on all the time (24/7) better for hard drive? Although this is not a current predicament, I would like to some input on this question.
Before my old hard drive went dead this past August, I got these messages that said problems where detected in the Hard Disk. As well as whenever I use to turn on and turn off my computer I would usually be greeted by a black screen with a wall of text usually ending with the option "Press F1 to Continue." I have a photo these message, but since this question is more for curiousity, I stall only post them if someone in here asks to see them.
I was told by someone in my family that it's better for a computer's hard drive and the computer itself to be running all the time (24/7) as turning it off actually does more harm or drains more energy out of the Hard Drive. However I find this statement to be incredibly debateable as while I was doing this, about a month later I was shown another blackscreen a month later that said a short message and to "press any key to continue," which did nothing but continue posting that same message.
Although a new hard drive was placed on about 2 months, just in case such a thing happens to me again... Is this statement true? Is it better for a computer to be left running all the time, or is it just better to turn it off whenever your done using it, like I have been done since getting my hard drive replaced? | My System Specs |
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03 Oct 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 Kentucky |
I have absolutely no facts to back up this statement, except for first hand experience. In 3+ years, besides restarting for updates, I can count on 1 hand how many times I manually shut down my PC. It was left running day and night unless I shut it down because it was storming. Knock on wood, I've never had a HDD fail. Sometimes, hard drives fail for no apparent reason.....in fact, 99% of drive failures are for an unknown reason. The other 1% is because it was dropped or mishandled in some way. I think this may be the same debate as to whether it conserves gas to let a car idle for a period of time vs shutting it down and starting it up when you are ready to go.
Either way, sometimes you just get a bad drive, or a drive that has a premature failure that has nothing to do with power on hours. Also, just because your system is on doesn't mean your HDD is actually being hit for data......I think you'd be fine to leave it running....but like I said, I have no hard proof. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz Graphics Card Intel HD4000 Sound Card Onboard Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2309W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard Mouse Logitech MX 500 Wired PSU Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular Case Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower Cooling Intel Liquid Cooler Hard Drives Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
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03 Oct 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
With todays hard drives I don't think it matters.
Kbrady leaves his/her computer on and I turn my computer when not in use. It is just a personnel choice. To me turning a computer off when not in use is like turning the lights in a room off when you are not in that room. Gone 2 hours the computer and lights are off for 2 hours. Most hard drives live a long time doing it Kbrady's way or my way. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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03 Oct 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
This has been debated on this forum before, as well as other forums.
You aren't likely to find a large scale authoritative study of the issue.
I shut down maybe 500 times a year---mostly to save power and to avoid the slight noise of PCs---rather than for reasons of "wear and tear".
There may be something to the idea that the surge of electricity when starting has some negative effect on component life, but I have seen no proof beyond allegations.
On the other hand, moving mechanical parts generally benefit from not moving and that may apply to the bearings in your hard drive.
I probably wouldn't restart 8 or 10 times a day, but have no evidence it's harmful.
Your drive issues may well be unrelated. Drives may have a tendency to fail early---if you can get past the first month, it may last 10 years. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
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03 Oct 2012
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I've owned many PCs from XT Clone, to 486, to Pentium III, a couple of Pentium IV, and now AMD multi-core systems. From 65 MB HD all the way up to 750 GB system disks, I've never had one fail.
I would agree the main culprit would be a drop. If you have a reason to run 24/7 such as running a server, then leave them running. Otherwise I see no reason, unless you are running an overnight video conversion or other job, to leave the system up all the time.
If you start to see disk errors or retries and want to keep the drive going to the last second, then in that case I think I'd leave it running once it's spun up.
If the drive is bad it probably got hosed during handling(dropped) rather than by starting/stopping. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center OS Windows 7 32 bit CPU AMD 5200+ dual core Memory 2 GB Graphics Card NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB Monitor(s) Displays CRT Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard PS/2 Mouse PS/2 Wheel Mouse Hard Drives 500 GB Sata internal :
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03 Oct 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 Michigan |
i use sleep mode when i am home. if i know i am going to be gone for any length of time i turn it off.. just in case a bad storm rolls in or something i rather be safe the come home or wake up to a fried computer.... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Monster212 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz Motherboard MSI P55M-GD41 (MS-7588) (CPU1) Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB Dual Channel DDR3 Graphics Card GeForce GTS 250 1gb DDR3 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Syncmaster SA300 Screen Resolution 1440x900 pixels Mouse Microsoft USB Wireless Mouse (IntelliPoint) PSU Rocketfish Gameing power Supply 530watts Case Cooler Master - Elite 343 Micro ATX Mini Tower Chassis Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX-3 Hard Drives WDC WD15EADS 1.5TB 7200RPM
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03 Oct 2012
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No it isn't better really. I think it comes from disk drive problems are revealed when power cycling them, though the problem is there regardless.
I have 2 1TB WDC Black drives each with over 5000 power cycles and 7000 load/unload (head park) with no issues.
At work we have servers that once they boot up and programs are loaded, basically run out of RAM and don't access the disk. We have had some running with an uptime over a year only to find that the disk was shot, for who knows how long, when we rebooted them. Semi-relevant LOL. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 3 OS Windows 7 64 bit SP1 CPU i5 2500k @ 4.5 GHz, 1.264V 124 GFlop (IBT with AVX) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB (4GBx4) 1600MHz G.skill Ripjaws X 8-8-8-24 Graphics Card MSI GTX 660 Ti PE/OC, 2GB 7160 MHz DDR5 clock, 1228 Mhz Core Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard HP Wireless Mouse HP wireless PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model) Case Fractal Design "Define R3" Cooling CM TPC 812 push/pull, 3 120mm, 2 TY-140 case fans Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (System), Crucial 128GB M4 SSD, 2x WD Caviar 1TB Black internal (data), 1x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB Internal, 1x 2TB eSata WD20EARS Green, 2x 500GB Seagate external USB, 1x 350GB exte Internet Speed 27.8 Mb/s down, 5.6 Mb/s up Other Info USB 3.0 x4 , SATA III x4, eSATA x3, SATA II x4, USB 2.0 x8. 2 Samsung DVD R/W drives.
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03 Oct 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 Lost In Space, Vol 8-New Kind Of Kick |
A bad habits that could fail a hard drive might be also from erasing constantly at the same sector, because not filling up or empty the data on the drive could let some markers.
Perhaps some basics hard drives are not made to stay 24/7 spinning as dedicated ones for NAS or Pvr/Dvr Streaming audio/video with intelliPark fonction. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number [May-Dec-2012] - New Mid-tower - (is done!) OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 CPU Ivy Bridge Core i5 K Motherboard Asus H77 Chipset (ATX) Memory G.Skill DDR3 PC3-12800 (16Gb) Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X Oc Sound Card SBXi-Fi Xtreme Audio (w/5.1 sound system) Monitor(s) Displays Asus Led 21,5" Screen Resolution 16/9 Keyboard Razer + Razer gamepad Mouse Razer PSU 700w 80+ Gold (ErP 6 ready) Case Cooler Master Silencio 550-v2 (modded) Cooling Gelid Solutions (PWM Push/pull Fans) Hard Drives Internal:
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03 Oct 2012
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#9 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Since they've been perfected in Windows 7, consider using the modern Sleep>Hibernate function.
It allows you to walk away from the PC without worrying about shutting it down if you are gone for an hour or a week. If you set it to sleep at 30-60 minutes it will reawake instantly if you come back.
If you then set it to hibernate an hour or two later, it writes what you left on the desktop to the HD and shuts down all power. However it is actually only in a resume state so that it starts twice as fast next time and puts everything back on the desktop where you left it. What's not to like?
In addition I'd use Hybrid sleep so Sleep itself also writes to the HD to back up your data in case of a power failure. | My System Specs | | |
04 Oct 2012
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#10 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic This has been debated on this forum before, as well as other forums.
You aren't likely to find a large scale authoritative study of the issue.
The general consensus always tends to be that it's 50/50 on whether it's good or bad too.
There are pros and cons to both methods. But the out come is that as an end user, you can be as equally confident of reliability no matter how you use your drive. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Inc OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce *TRI SLI* Sound Card ALC898 / 5.1 receiver/ ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 5760*1200/ 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser IE, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
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