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02 Nov 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit |
MsMpEng.exe Hello Win 7 Home premiuim,i5,1T,3,30GHz
I noticed Windows Defener takes up a lot of CPU usage yet the program is turned off by default. I think it is a remnant of a previous os and not useful in Win 7.
I also noticed I have to check "show for all users" for it to be displayed.
I know it is part of Windows but can it be removed without harmful results?
Thank you | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OS Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit CPU Intel R i5 3.3Ghz Motherboard Dell 2.6 Memory 6 GB Graphics Card Nvidea GT 420 Sound Card Nvidea Hi Def Monitor(s) Displays Dell pnp PSU Dell xps 8300 Case Dell Balck Cooling unknown Hard Drives Seagate 931 GB |
02 Nov 2012
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#2 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
What AntiVirus program do you use?
What is the path for MsMpEng.exe?
If you use MSE (MS Security Essentials), this exe may be for that.
Unfortunately MS has used the same file-names for some MSE and Windows Defender files...
I'm on a system right now without MSE or Windows Defender, so i'll have to get on a different system that uses MSE to confirm the file locations.
This system does not have an MsMpEng.exe running in Task Manager! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
02 Nov 2012
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#3 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
I just turned on Windows Defender on this OS.
The running process i see for this is c:\Program Files\Windows Defender\ MSASCui.exe
I turn off Windows Defender with Control Panel > Windows Defender
Tools > Options > Administrator > Use this program
I turned it off and MSASCui.exe is no longer running. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
02 Nov 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit |
Task manager You have to click, 'show processors from all users' to see this entry.
I have MSE and from what I read, it turns defender off when it installs.
That is why I wondered if I could remove it as it is off by default. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OS Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit CPU Intel R i5 3.3Ghz Motherboard Dell 2.6 Memory 6 GB Graphics Card Nvidea GT 420 Sound Card Nvidea Hi Def Monitor(s) Displays Dell pnp PSU Dell xps 8300 Case Dell Balck Cooling unknown Hard Drives Seagate 931 GB |
02 Nov 2012
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#5 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
I don't see that Windows Defender can be removed in Programs and Features.
I'm on a system now that has MS Security Essentials, and Windows Defender is turned off.
MsMpEng.exe is running, but that is for MS Security Essentials version 4 (not Windows Defender).
The folder for Security Essentials version 4 is C:\Program Files\Microsoft Security Client\
I always see all entries because i normally use Process Explorer (not Task Manager).
I think the process you see running is Security Essentials (not Windows Defender).
What is the folder for your MsMpEng.exe? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
02 Nov 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit |
folder I am not too proficient with technical maneuvering.
Does this prnt scrn help? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OS Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit CPU Intel R i5 3.3Ghz Motherboard Dell 2.6 Memory 6 GB Graphics Card Nvidea GT 420 Sound Card Nvidea Hi Def Monitor(s) Displays Dell pnp PSU Dell xps 8300 Case Dell Balck Cooling unknown Hard Drives Seagate 931 GB |
03 Nov 2012
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#7 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
OK, that is the Security Essentials folder and program.
How much CPU is MsMpEng.exe using for you?
What other real-time Security programs do you use?
You may have a conflict with Security Essentials and something else on your system if MsMpEng.exe is using a lot of CPU. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
03 Nov 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit |
cpu It uses about 56,000 and I have only one real time protection running. I use MBAM occassionally(no real time) along with Secunia and FileHippo update checker.
Am I in the ball park with 56K? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell OS Windows 7 Home premium 64 bit CPU Intel R i5 3.3Ghz Motherboard Dell 2.6 Memory 6 GB Graphics Card Nvidea GT 420 Sound Card Nvidea Hi Def Monitor(s) Displays Dell pnp PSU Dell xps 8300 Case Dell Balck Cooling unknown Hard Drives Seagate 931 GB |
03 Nov 2012
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#9 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
I think you're OK with that.
I'm guessing you looked at Working Set Memory, not CPU usage. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner. |
03 Nov 2012
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#10 | | Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 NC, USA |
fyi,
I also found this old SF thread about Windows Defender.
It can't be uninstalled in Windows 7. Can you remove/delete Windows Defender | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1 CPU AMD Athlon II x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H Memory 6GB GSkill DDR2 800 Graphics Card AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP Sound Card on board Realtek ALC889A Monitor(s) Displays RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050... Keyboard Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired Mouse Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired PSU Corsair 500 W Case Rosewill mid tower Cooling CM 90mm Tower Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ... Internet Speed Uverse - 12Mbps D / 1.5Mbps U Antivirus Avast free OR MSE. (+ MBAM Pro). Browser 1-Firefox, 2-IE. (Chrome and Opera for testing) Other Info 2 PCs: Primary: dual-boot, Test: triple-boot.
Mainly HTPC/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.
Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.
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