| Windows 7: 8-Core, overclocked machine slow... |
12 Nov 2012
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#21 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Just outside Detroit |

Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot I would test RAM stick individually, and run the test overnight, and if an error is found with the RAM stick, place the same RAM stick in a different motherboard slot (repeat for all the slots), if an error is found in all the slots for the same RAM stick then you have a faulty RAM module.
However, if no errors are found for the RAM module in a different slot, then you have a bad motherboard DIMM slot. Remember, to make sure the contacts on the RAM modules are clean and the motherboard slots are not covered or full of dust.
Run the test for least 6-7 passes. I started testing before I read your post. I pulled two, moved my SSD, and added another HD to my system for VMs. Ran the test, and almost INSTANTLY, I got an error. Shutdown, swapped out the first stick and running again. 49% thru the test without errors. I'm guessing it's safe to say it's the stick no the slot... | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq SR5710F [Case only] OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD FX 8150 [16 Megs total Cache] Motherboard Asus M5A88-M Memory 16 Gigs [1 Gig for Shared Vid mem] Graphics Card Integrated ATI Radeon HD 4250 GPU Sound Card ALC892 8-Channel High Def Audio Monitor(s) Displays VGA main, HDMI to TV Screen Resolution VGA Screen: 1440 x 900 TV Screen: 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Wireless PSU 850 Watt Case Compaq SR5710F Cooling Default Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD 80-Gig secondary [VMs]
~5TB on server. [My Docs, Photos, Music, Desktop folders are on the server] Internet Speed Slow-ish Broadband Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser IE Other Info Blue-Ray DL drive Z:\
Server: 2Ghz Single core, with about 5TB on it. WinServ2003Enterprise
MacBook: 2Ghz Core2Duo, 2Gigs, Snow 160Gigs
Toshiba Lap: 2.4Ghz, Single Core, Win7
Acer AspireOne: 1.6Ghz, Dual-Core, 1 Gig, XP Home
HP Lap: 1.8[?] Quad-Core, Win7
4 Android Devices
2 iPod Touch |
12 Nov 2012
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#22 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Service Pack 1 - Linux Mint Mate 14 x64 East Midlands |
Keep testing in all the slots, the tests will take time, but least you will sure what RAM stick or DIMM slot is causing the problem. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion dm1 Notebook PC OS Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Service Pack 1 - Linux Mint Mate 14 x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU (64-Bit) @ 1.65GHz Dual-Core Motherboard HP 3387 36.0A (Socket FT1) Memory 4GB DDR3 @ 676MHz Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Sound Card Beats Audio - IDT High Definition Audio CODEC Monitor(s) Displays LCD HP Monitor Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 @ 60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Synaptics TouchPad V 7.5/Logitech USB Wireless PSU Microsoft Composite Battery - ACPI Case HP Cooling HP Cool Sense Hard Drives 500GB - SATA Hitachi HTS547550A9E384 Internet Speed 24.0 Mbps Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Opera 12.15; Firefox 21 Other Info NIC - Broadcom 4313GN 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter
Belkin Black Laptop Cooling Stand |
12 Nov 2012
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#23 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Just outside Detroit |

Quote: Originally Posted by bobafetthotmail also note that most java and flash around are mostly single or two-threaded programs. That means all cores beyond the 4th are there just to keep time because there are only two "streams" of instructions to process. Having more cores means that each core taken alone is weaker than a processor with less cores but still running at the same frequency. Given modern needs, it's not a so good idea, as lots of programs (and games) aren't going to multithread over 4 cores, go figure over 8. So you have half of your processing power that is basically wasted.
AMD stuff shines when you are doing heavily multithreaded things (basically workstation or server stuff), but for gaming and personal use the best one is around the i5 3750k, performance-wise.
Also, now that you mention overclocking, AMD cores do a trick when reaching dangerous temp, and this could cause the CPU to run like a crappy i3 as overheated cores downclock to 1 Ghz or so. Your processor is a Bulldozer series, which is known for heavy power use (and high thermal output).
Check if your cores are cooled well enough to keep their stated max frequency even under real loads with programs like CPUz. This page tells more details, although it's for a slightly more modern processor of the same family.
It could be likely that you need to decrease your overclock or get better cooling to keep them from auto-downclocking. Right now, with the memory issues I'm having now, I have the overclocking turned off, but I am slowly proceeding with a new project, and I have taken into consideration the fact that 1/2 of my cores are quite unused.
Once I positiviely identify the defective stick [I think I have] I will work on getting a replacement,but will move that stick to the very back to limit the number of crashes since my replacement will travel by mail.
I am going to install a VM of XP [because I have one I can use] and give it it's own keyboard and mouse to see if I can use it while someone else uses the rest of the Windows 7 machine. I am undecided on 1 or 2 cores for the VM, but I'm going to lock it into Core 8, and maybe core 7. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq SR5710F [Case only] OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD FX 8150 [16 Megs total Cache] Motherboard Asus M5A88-M Memory 16 Gigs [1 Gig for Shared Vid mem] Graphics Card Integrated ATI Radeon HD 4250 GPU Sound Card ALC892 8-Channel High Def Audio Monitor(s) Displays VGA main, HDMI to TV Screen Resolution VGA Screen: 1440 x 900 TV Screen: 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Wireless PSU 850 Watt Case Compaq SR5710F Cooling Default Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD 80-Gig secondary [VMs]
~5TB on server. [My Docs, Photos, Music, Desktop folders are on the server] Internet Speed Slow-ish Broadband Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser IE Other Info Blue-Ray DL drive Z:\
Server: 2Ghz Single core, with about 5TB on it. WinServ2003Enterprise
MacBook: 2Ghz Core2Duo, 2Gigs, Snow 160Gigs
Toshiba Lap: 2.4Ghz, Single Core, Win7
Acer AspireOne: 1.6Ghz, Dual-Core, 1 Gig, XP Home
HP Lap: 1.8[?] Quad-Core, Win7
4 Android Devices
2 iPod Touch |
12 Nov 2012
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#24 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Just outside Detroit |

Quote: Originally Posted by x BlueRobot Keep testing in all the slots, the tests will take time, but least you will sure what RAM stick or DIMM slot is causing the problem. Yes sir! [Bows, then salutes!] | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq SR5710F [Case only] OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD FX 8150 [16 Megs total Cache] Motherboard Asus M5A88-M Memory 16 Gigs [1 Gig for Shared Vid mem] Graphics Card Integrated ATI Radeon HD 4250 GPU Sound Card ALC892 8-Channel High Def Audio Monitor(s) Displays VGA main, HDMI to TV Screen Resolution VGA Screen: 1440 x 900 TV Screen: 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Wireless PSU 850 Watt Case Compaq SR5710F Cooling Default Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD 80-Gig secondary [VMs]
~5TB on server. [My Docs, Photos, Music, Desktop folders are on the server] Internet Speed Slow-ish Broadband Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser IE Other Info Blue-Ray DL drive Z:\
Server: 2Ghz Single core, with about 5TB on it. WinServ2003Enterprise
MacBook: 2Ghz Core2Duo, 2Gigs, Snow 160Gigs
Toshiba Lap: 2.4Ghz, Single Core, Win7
Acer AspireOne: 1.6Ghz, Dual-Core, 1 Gig, XP Home
HP Lap: 1.8[?] Quad-Core, Win7
4 Android Devices
2 iPod Touch |
12 Nov 2012
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#25 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Just outside Detroit |

Quote: Originally Posted by JoesMorgue I started testing before I read your post. I pulled two, moved my SSD, and added another HD to my system for VMs. Ran the test, and almost INSTANTLY, I got an error. Shutdown, swapped out the first stick and running again. 49% thru the test without errors. I'm guessing it's safe to say it's the stick no the slot... The first stick is now in the back. [All in reference to the front of the case.] I am re-running Memtest86+ and the error came up almost instantly. When I swapped out the one stick, it went thru the entire test without errors.
Now what? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq SR5710F [Case only] OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD FX 8150 [16 Megs total Cache] Motherboard Asus M5A88-M Memory 16 Gigs [1 Gig for Shared Vid mem] Graphics Card Integrated ATI Radeon HD 4250 GPU Sound Card ALC892 8-Channel High Def Audio Monitor(s) Displays VGA main, HDMI to TV Screen Resolution VGA Screen: 1440 x 900 TV Screen: 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Wireless PSU 850 Watt Case Compaq SR5710F Cooling Default Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD 80-Gig secondary [VMs]
~5TB on server. [My Docs, Photos, Music, Desktop folders are on the server] Internet Speed Slow-ish Broadband Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser IE Other Info Blue-Ray DL drive Z:\
Server: 2Ghz Single core, with about 5TB on it. WinServ2003Enterprise
MacBook: 2Ghz Core2Duo, 2Gigs, Snow 160Gigs
Toshiba Lap: 2.4Ghz, Single Core, Win7
Acer AspireOne: 1.6Ghz, Dual-Core, 1 Gig, XP Home
HP Lap: 1.8[?] Quad-Core, Win7
4 Android Devices
2 iPod Touch |
12 Nov 2012
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#26 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Run each memtest for 7 passes minimum, unless there is any errors, you can stop if so. I suspect the one RAM module is bad as you do. You might check it alone in each slot of the board to confirm. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
12 Nov 2012
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#27 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Service Pack 1 - Linux Mint Mate 14 x64 East Midlands |
Test that RAM module in every slot, it does seem that one RAM module may be issue, if less RAM is being displayed by Windows. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion dm1 Notebook PC OS Windows 7 Home Premium x86 Service Pack 1 - Linux Mint Mate 14 x64 CPU AMD E-450 APU (64-Bit) @ 1.65GHz Dual-Core Motherboard HP 3387 36.0A (Socket FT1) Memory 4GB DDR3 @ 676MHz Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 6320 Graphics Sound Card Beats Audio - IDT High Definition Audio CODEC Monitor(s) Displays LCD HP Monitor Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 @ 60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Synaptics TouchPad V 7.5/Logitech USB Wireless PSU Microsoft Composite Battery - ACPI Case HP Cooling HP Cool Sense Hard Drives 500GB - SATA Hitachi HTS547550A9E384 Internet Speed 24.0 Mbps Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Opera 12.15; Firefox 21 Other Info NIC - Broadcom 4313GN 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter
Belkin Black Laptop Cooling Stand |
12 Nov 2012
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#28 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Just outside Detroit |
Ok. Updates! I found something!
I tested each stick by itself. Three of the sticks said 400 MHz DDR-800, while the forth stick said 667 MHz, DDR-1334.
I think that is the issue... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq SR5710F [Case only] OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD FX 8150 [16 Megs total Cache] Motherboard Asus M5A88-M Memory 16 Gigs [1 Gig for Shared Vid mem] Graphics Card Integrated ATI Radeon HD 4250 GPU Sound Card ALC892 8-Channel High Def Audio Monitor(s) Displays VGA main, HDMI to TV Screen Resolution VGA Screen: 1440 x 900 TV Screen: 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Wireless PSU 850 Watt Case Compaq SR5710F Cooling Default Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD 80-Gig secondary [VMs]
~5TB on server. [My Docs, Photos, Music, Desktop folders are on the server] Internet Speed Slow-ish Broadband Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser IE Other Info Blue-Ray DL drive Z:\
Server: 2Ghz Single core, with about 5TB on it. WinServ2003Enterprise
MacBook: 2Ghz Core2Duo, 2Gigs, Snow 160Gigs
Toshiba Lap: 2.4Ghz, Single Core, Win7
Acer AspireOne: 1.6Ghz, Dual-Core, 1 Gig, XP Home
HP Lap: 1.8[?] Quad-Core, Win7
4 Android Devices
2 iPod Touch |
13 Nov 2012
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#29 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |

Quote: Originally Posted by JoesMorgue Once I positiviely identify the defective stick [I think I have] I will work on getting a replacement,but will move that stick to the very back to limit the number of crashes since my replacement will travel by mail. If you have 16 GB in 4x4GB banks you can safely live without 4GB for even a month. Unless you do stuff that specifically demands it, you won't be able to fill 8 GB of ram. Quote: The first stick is now in the back. [All in reference to the front of the case.] I am re-running Memtest86+ and the error came up almost instantly. When I swapped out the one stick, it went thru the entire test without errors. The position of the memory stick is irrelevant unless you were testing the slots themselves, as all ram is going to be used regardless of the slot.
Ram tests are usually done on a single ram bank, just to make sure that if there are errors they 100% come from that bank. Quote: 400 MHz DDR-800, while the forth stick said 667 MHz, DDR-1334 400 mhz ram? Isn't it a bit outdated for a Bulldozer processor?
And yes, mixing rams working at different speeds could result in issues. if the stick giving errors was the 667Mz one, try removing all the others and placing it in the first slot, then repeat the test.
If it comes out clean it was one of such "mixing ram issues", not a defective stick. Quote: I am undecided on 1 or 2 cores for the VM, but I'm going to lock it into Core 8, and maybe core 7. I'd give it more, 3 or 4 cores if it can use them. Remember that each core is around half the power of a good quad-core's core. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay! |
13 Nov 2012
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#30 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Just outside Detroit |

Quote: Originally Posted by bobafetthotmail 
Quote: Originally Posted by JoesMorgue Once I positiviely identify the defective stick [I think I have] I will work on getting a replacement,but will move that stick to the very back to limit the number of crashes since my replacement will travel by mail. If you have 16 GB in 4x4GB banks you can safely live without 4GB for even a month. Unless you do stuff that specifically demands it, you won't be able to fill 8 GB of ram. Well, the OS is x64, and I think the MB is too. Would that cause troubles because of the missing stick? Quote: Quote: The first stick is now in the back. [All in reference to the front of the case.] I am re-running Memtest86+ and the error came up almost instantly. When I swapped out the one stick, it went thru the entire test without errors. The position of the memory stick is irrelevant unless you were testing the slots themselves, as all ram is going to be used regardless of the slot.
Ram tests are usually done on a single ram bank, just to make sure that if there are errors they 100% come from that bank. Quote: 400 MHz DDR-800, while the forth stick said 667 MHz, DDR-1334 400 mhz ram? Isn't it a bit outdated for a Bulldozer processor?
And yes, mixing rams working at different speeds could result in issues. if the stick giving errors was the 667Mz one, try removing all the others and placing it in the first slot, then repeat the test.
If it comes out clean it was one of such "mixing ram issues", not a defective stick. The sticks I'm using are labeled as: 1866MHz, Corsair said the DRAM speed should be set at 1600 for my CPU. I bought them as a set of four from Amazon. I do not understand why it's showing at 400, or even 667. Quote: Quote: I am undecided on 1 or 2 cores for the VM, but I'm going to lock it into Core 8, and maybe core 7. I'd give it more, 3 or 4 cores if it can use them. Remember that each core is around half the power of a good quad-core's core. It appears that XP Pro is only seeing a single processor. I'm want to wait until I get all the updates, but the Windows [XP] update part of Microsoft is having errors, so I think I'm stuck on SP1 for now...
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| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq SR5710F [Case only] OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD FX 8150 [16 Megs total Cache] Motherboard Asus M5A88-M Memory 16 Gigs [1 Gig for Shared Vid mem] Graphics Card Integrated ATI Radeon HD 4250 GPU Sound Card ALC892 8-Channel High Def Audio Monitor(s) Displays VGA main, HDMI to TV Screen Resolution VGA Screen: 1440 x 900 TV Screen: 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Wireless PSU 850 Watt Case Compaq SR5710F Cooling Default Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD 80-Gig secondary [VMs]
~5TB on server. [My Docs, Photos, Music, Desktop folders are on the server] Internet Speed Slow-ish Broadband Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser IE Other Info Blue-Ray DL drive Z:\
Server: 2Ghz Single core, with about 5TB on it. WinServ2003Enterprise
MacBook: 2Ghz Core2Duo, 2Gigs, Snow 160Gigs
Toshiba Lap: 2.4Ghz, Single Core, Win7
Acer AspireOne: 1.6Ghz, Dual-Core, 1 Gig, XP Home
HP Lap: 1.8[?] Quad-Core, Win7
4 Android Devices
2 iPod Touch 8-Core, overclocked machine slow... problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:31 AM. | |