| Windows 7: New computer SSD/HDD help needed |
10 Nov 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home premium 64bit |
New computer SSD/HDD help needed So i've recently got a SSD that is 120 GB and a 1TB HDD. After installing OS and drivers plus a few programs such as Skype and Chrome that is stored in the C drive, I've already used up 30.9 GB of memory. Should I be worried or is this normal? Do you guys recommend me using CCleaner to wipe my drive? Any tips on effectively managing my SSD? Thanks for the help guys, as I am really bothered by the 30GB used. I've checked and hidden folders are 14GB and Windows is 11.4GB | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Home premium 64bit |
10 Nov 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1 The North Star state |
If you don't use hibernate mode you can shut it off by following this tutorial. Hibernate - Enable or Disable
Depending on how much RAM you have installed, another option would be to reduce the size of the page file. Another thing to check is how much space you are allocating to system restore and adjust that if necessary. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Customized build from CyberPower OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1 CPU Intel i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8P67 Deluxe Memory 8 gigabytes Corsair PC3-12800 DDR3 Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 460 superclocked Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 23" LCD Screen Resolution 1980 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft 3 button PSU Coolermaster 1000 watt modular Case Coolermaster HAF X full tower Cooling Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus Hard Drives 120 Gb Samsung 840 Pro SSD
120 Gb Kingston Hyper X SSD
1 Tb WD Caviar Black HDD Internet Speed download 1.5 Mb/sec upload 300Kb/sec |
11 Nov 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Just outside Detroit |
I just posted this in another thread:
SSDs have a limited number of writes to them, therefore you want to manage the drive as such.
I've heard there are ways to better prepare Windows for installation to an SSD, but I'm going to recommend against that because it would be more unnecessary writing to the drive.
Make sure you turn OFF the defragging of the drive. You defrag platter based drives because of physical limitations that do not exist in SSDs. SSDs will not slow down ANY noticeable amount as it frags.
One thing I did was set aside 4 Gigs [out of 16] at boot as a RamDrive, and I load an .IMG I made which puts specific folders on the drive, and then set my browser to use it for it's cache, I also made %Temp%, and %Tmp% point to Y:\Temp on the drive.
Because of keeping the drives from being needed to be "moved", I set my Blue-Ray to drive Z:, and my RamDrive to drive Y:. That way if I add drives, I don't have to worry about software complaining.
My networked drives that get letters start at Q: [Right now, there are 7 in my server] | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq SR5710F [Case only] OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD FX 8150 [16 Megs total Cache] Motherboard Asus M5A88-M Memory 16 Gigs [4 Gigs used for RAMDrive, 1 Gig for Shared Vid mem] Graphics Card Integrated ATI Radeon HD 4250 GPU Sound Card ALC892 8-Channel High Def Audio Monitor(s) Displays VGA main, HDMI to TV Screen Resolution VGA Screen: 1440 x 900 TV Screen: 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Wireless PSU 850 Watt Case Compaq SR5710F Cooling Default Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD 80-Gig secondary [VMs]
~2TB on server. [My Docs, Photos, Music, Desktop folders are on the server] Internet Speed Slow-ish Broadband Other Info 4 Gig RamDrive Y:\
Blue-Ray DL drive Z:\
Server: 2Ghz Single core, with about 2TB on it. WinServ2003Enterprise
MacBook: 2Ghz Core2Duo, 2Gigs, Snow 160Gigs
Toshiba Lap: 2.4Ghz, Single Core, Win7
Acer AspireOne: 1.6Ghz, Dual-Core, 1 Gig, XP Home
HP Lap: 1.8[?] Quad-Core, Win7
4 Android Devices
2 iPod Touch |
11 Nov 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |

Quote: Originally Posted by JoesMorgue I just posted this in another thread:
SSDs have a limited number of writes to them, therefore you want to manage the drive as such. I've heard there are ways to better prepare Windows for installation to an SSD, but I'm going to recommend against that because it would be more unnecessary writing to the drive.
Make sure you turn OFF the defragging of the drive. You defrag platter based drives because of physical limitations that do not exist in SSDs. SSDs will not slow down ANY noticeable amount as it frags.
One thing I did was set aside 4 Gigs [out of 16] at boot as a RamDrive, and I load an .IMG I made which puts specific folders on the drive, and then set my browser to use it for it's cache, I also made %Temp%, and %Tmp% point to Y:\Temp on the drive.
Because of keeping the drives from being needed to be "moved", I set my Blue-Ray to drive Z:, and my RamDrive to drive Y:. That way if I add drives, I don't have to worry about software complaining.
My networked drives that get letters start at Q: [Right now, there are 7 in my server]  Better that what? Windows 7 will automatically recognize the SSD and disable defragging for it. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
12 Nov 2012
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#5 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
With that size SSD I'd install all or most of your programs to it, keep the page file System Managed and onboard, and use the Hibernate function if you like it as many of us do.
When space gets tight the files that are best moved are User folders, by copying them to the HDD, then rightclicking each to link to the related Library - Include a Folder - Windows 7 Forums | My System Specs | | |
12 Nov 2012
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#6 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 Italy |

Quote: Originally Posted by JoesMorgue SSDs have a limited number of writes to them, therefore you want to manage the drive as such. There is little to worry about. Modern SSDs have to be written by 5-10 GB per day for years to end their "limited number of writes" pool.
That's a concern for big companies and datacenters/server farms that do have such high data movement needs, but not that much for home use. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom built OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601 CPU AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3 Motherboard ASUS M4A78 Memory 4,00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks! Keyboard Microsoft, whatever. Mouse Optical, logitec. PSU whatever, around 450w Case Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old Cooling CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy Hard Drives (1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD Internet Speed effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up Antivirus Avira, free endition. Browser Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome Other Info Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay! |
12 Nov 2012
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#7 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Quote: SSDs have a limited number of writes to them, therefore you want to manage the drive as such.
I've heard there are ways to better prepare Windows for installation to an SSD, but I'm going to recommend against that because it would be more unnecessary writing to the drive.
I think you are just spreading gospel. There is absolutely nothing to worry about for a home user. The number of writes that are being done in a home installation will be far too low to impact any modern SSD during it's lifespan. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
12 Nov 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
There have been people testing SSD writes and some get to the terabyte range before any degradation occurs and to the petabyte range before failure, far more than a home user will reach in years of use.
Terabyte= 1000 gigabytes
Petabyte= 1000 terabytes | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
12 Nov 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Just outside Detroit |
I NEVER said it was a MAJOR concern. I said there is a limited number of writes, when compared to HDDs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compaq SR5710F [Case only] OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD FX 8150 [16 Megs total Cache] Motherboard Asus M5A88-M Memory 16 Gigs [4 Gigs used for RAMDrive, 1 Gig for Shared Vid mem] Graphics Card Integrated ATI Radeon HD 4250 GPU Sound Card ALC892 8-Channel High Def Audio Monitor(s) Displays VGA main, HDMI to TV Screen Resolution VGA Screen: 1440 x 900 TV Screen: 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Wireless Mouse Wireless PSU 850 Watt Case Compaq SR5710F Cooling Default Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD 80-Gig secondary [VMs]
~2TB on server. [My Docs, Photos, Music, Desktop folders are on the server] Internet Speed Slow-ish Broadband Other Info 4 Gig RamDrive Y:\
Blue-Ray DL drive Z:\
Server: 2Ghz Single core, with about 2TB on it. WinServ2003Enterprise
MacBook: 2Ghz Core2Duo, 2Gigs, Snow 160Gigs
Toshiba Lap: 2.4Ghz, Single Core, Win7
Acer AspireOne: 1.6Ghz, Dual-Core, 1 Gig, XP Home
HP Lap: 1.8[?] Quad-Core, Win7
4 Android Devices
2 iPod Touch |
12 Nov 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 Kentucky |
Keep your OS and Programs on your SSD, and move your "User" folder and subfolders to your Data drive. The stuff in Downloads/Pictures/Documents etc don't need the speed of your SSD, so keep them on the HDD.
If you don't use the Hibernate feature, turn it off and get rid of the Hibernate file, it will usually be the size of your RAM pool. You can also adjust the page file if you want. There are a few other tweaks but none that will really net you a huge amount of space.
Doing those things will make sure your premium SSD space will be available for what you need it for. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77 Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz Graphics Card Intel HD4000 Sound Card Onboard Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2309W Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard Mouse Logitech MX 500 Wired PSU Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular Case Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower Cooling Intel Liquid Cooler Hard Drives Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
2 x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 HDD - Storage Internet Speed 50Mbps DL / 10Mbps UL Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Chrome/Firefox Other Info Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's
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