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Windows 7: Active partition changing safety

05 Dec 2012   #11
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It's somewhat unusual that there's no System flag on Recovery showing that the boot files do in fact reside there. However it's not enough to move Active flag if you didn't move it there yourself.

But just to be sure I'd boot into Windows 7 DVD or System Repair Disk to run Startup Repair - Run up to 3 Separate Times to see if it finds some things to fix and plants the System flag on the Active partition where it should be. This may help with some of the boot-related issues.

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05 Dec 2012   #12

Windows 7 home premium

Thanks, I have already done this to no avail along with disc check, disc cleanup and system file checker. I'm now at the stage where because windows 8 is now available I'm thinking of upgrading to it and hope it sorts out all the crap.
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05 Dec 2012   #13
Microsoft MVP


You ran Startup Repair from disk three separate times with reboot in between each?

Just checkin.
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05 Dec 2012   #14

Windows 7 home premium

I did it from the recovery computer repair option on the hard disc ie f8 prior to boot then repair computer then startup repair which would not complete itself due to errors
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05 Dec 2012   #15
Microsoft MVP


Better to run Startup Repair - Run up to 3 Separate Times from Windows 7 DVD or System Repair Disk
since onboard System files may be corrupted. That's why I specified the disks.

Run SFC /SCANNOW Command now to check.
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05 Dec 2012   #16

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower

You may have a problem with the system restore capability or at least the OEM's installation of the recovery tools when running into Startup repair errors. That should fly through and restart the system in only a matter of seconds when no problems are present.

A repair cd you can burn and boot up from would have the Startup repair tool as well as command prompt options. You can boot from one you burn or even borrow a 7 dvd for the same edition while the repair cd burned by that Windows installation would be advised to repair the boot.

Now the clean everything up and eliminate "Bloatwares" idea works as long as you are familiar with looking up all the drivers for everything once a clean install of Windows is seen to. That means looking the WiFi as well as video, sound, and chipset drivers for that model at the main support. It's not that much different then doing the same with a Vista laptop which I had to do a few time recently due to a new larger drive replacing the old and cleaning malwares off one older laptop! (not to mention the 7 laptop that also saw a scam ware infection cleaned off!)

The one way to view the 100mb System Reserved boot partition with a custom install of 7 however onto a raw drive where the Windows installer creates that second small partition was to restore a full system image onto a second drive and then assigning a drive letter to the image's 100mb to see it added as a new logical drive. On any OEM system that is the last thing you want.

Better off booting live from a Linux live disk to see just where the Boot folder and Bootmgr file is located. Mounting the hidden recovery partition as a logical drive can leave it exposed to some forms of malwares it wouldn't generally see. Accidental deletion of boot files could be another possible concern. Burning recovery disks and creating system image backups are the best moves when you know everything is working at 100%!
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06 Dec 2012   #17

Windows 7 home premium

Thanks, this is getting a bit too deep for me but I have made considerable progress by uninstalling all the accessory programs put on as extras by Toshiba then only reinstalling the ones that I really use and as a result everything is now almost back to normal with the exception of windows backup and restore which doesnt work. in that regard I have downloaded Todo and that does the job fine.
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06 Dec 2012   #18

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8.1 Preview VM - 7 Pro x64 second remote tower

That suggests you have deeper problems with the preinstall being seen there. You may have to get busy creating a recovery disk and even make a usb installation key(goes a little faster and smoother) and plan a fresh install folowing the guide greg posted earlier to get a fully working copy of Windows running.

The backup tools especially the option for creating a full system are generally found reliable unless there's a problem. A clean install of course while leaving the factory recvery partition intact can clean up the C volume as well as eliminate any bloatwares easy enough. From there you simply look up the drivers needed.

Once any Windows install becomes buggy the solution used here would be simply nuking the present C primary entirely even on the laptops I cleaned up when those were trashed by malwares. Before making backups with any program as far as the OS side having things in prime condition is what you would want. The Windows Easy Transfer tool can usually restore user files and program settings once everything is back on fresh again.

Another thing to suggest here would be running a diagnostics tool on the main drive itself to see if that is starting to see bad sectors which can cause a variety of issues. The hard drives in laptops generally end up taking a bit more pounding overall then any 3 1/2" on a desktop and tend to wear faster at times.

Scheduling the Disk Check tool to run on the next startup can also be a help to solve problems when errors are present on the C volume. To open up an elevated command prompt go to Start>All Programs>Accessories and right cilck on the command prompt icon. You want to select the run as admin option and type in "chkdsk /r". Once you press enter you will need to answer the yes or no message with Y to see the tool scheduled.

You likely have seen that before if you had an improper shutdown where you pressed a key to cancel the Disk Check tool when Windows was first starting up. This time you would want it to run and hopefully fix what it can. If the laptop has a Samsung or Hitachi drive in it the Sea Tools would be one hard drive diagnostics option to run. SeaTools for Windows | Seagate

Hitachi and Samsung still have their own tools of course with a list of the top 6 free ones seeing those and the Sea Tools included at Top 6 Free Hard Drive Diagnostic Softwares - Data Recovery Blog
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