Solved Should I defrag manually or not

xerxesaria

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Reading and searching for information about defragmenting has only caused me more confusion. I have been reading a lot about Win 7 automatic defrag etc. My old Vista PC has also an option where you set up a schedule for automatic defragmenting, so I don't see how Win 7 is different in that aspect...

I have built this gaming PC just a month ago. I have looked at the defrag schedule for both my boot drive and other drive and twice I have seen the boot drive say 4% defrag. Other times, it always shows as 0%.

- What does the above mean?
- I have the defrag set to a monthly schedule for 1st day of the month at midnight. Will I have to leave my PC fully powered on for this to take effect?
- Some people say defragging is not necessary for modern hard drives any more. So is it or is it not?
- I do have about 50GB of data on the boot drive (Velociraptor) and 500 GB of pictures, movies, music, games on the other drive. Is it necessary to defrag them?
- Should I do this manually because my computer is not always on during the "scheduled" defrag time?

Thank you.

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250gb WD Velociraptor - 2tb WE Black - Gigabyte z77x-ud3h - Gigabyte GTX 660 - Corsair GS700 - Corsair Vengeance 2x4gb - CM storm enforcer
 

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Gigabyte Ga z77x-ud3h
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8GB (2X4) Corsair Vengeance
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Gigabyte GTX 660 OC
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24" Asus VS247h-p
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250gb WD Velociraptor
2tb WD caviar black
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Corsair GS700 700W
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CM Storm Enforcer
Windows 7 is a way more efficient running OS than the old XP or Vista.
I have Perfect Disk 12.5 and every time I'm curious to how defraged my drives are and analyze them they are @ 1% defraged but I still defrag every so often just for chits and giggles cause the system doesn't need to be defraged I just do it cause I started the program and may as well use it.
Having scheduled defrags is not neccessary IMO on a win7 machine
 

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12.00 GB Kingston DIMM 3x4 gig sticks
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XION SuperNova 600 watt
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Honestly, the built in Windows defragger is crap, in comparison to all of the better defraggers out there. Defraggler gets high recommendations across the board and it's free. I'm using it and have had no problems with it at all. Defraggler

Schedule it to run once a week or so when you know your PC will be on, but you won't be using it and you'll be fine.
 

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Custom Built
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Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
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Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz
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Asus Sabertooth Z77
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Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz CL 9-9-9-24 1T
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EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW
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Onboard Audio
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Dell S2309W
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Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
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Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular
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Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower
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Intel Liquid Cooler
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Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard
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Mionix Naos 7000
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Microsoft Security Essentials/Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
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xerxesaria,
Only defrag the spinners and leave the SSD drive in your spec's the heck alone.
 

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A blend of brains, brawn and dumb luck.
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Windows 7 Ultimate 64
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i7 3770k OC'd 4.6 @ 1.17v, also FX 8120 & i5 miniITX
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MSI P67A-GD80 b3
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Sound Blaster Z Series Card
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CoolerMaster Storm Styker
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(2) Logitech Illuminated Keyboards (1) usb (1) wireless
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Lenovo L420 i5 lappy with m sata
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I have had over 20 different computers running win7 since it's Beta Trial days. I have never defragged any of them, & never had any major problems because I have not defragged.
 

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It's not mandatory, it's a matter of preventative maintenance. Stuff gets cluttered up over time, especially if you put a lot of data on the drive. Defragging to me is like dusting, and if I can schedule it automatically, why not?
 

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Custom Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
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Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz
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Asus Sabertooth Z77
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Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz CL 9-9-9-24 1T
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EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW
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Onboard Audio
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Dell S2309W
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Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
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Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular
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Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower
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Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard
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Mionix Naos 7000
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Microsoft Security Essentials/Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
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Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's
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Thank you. So one more question: Can I be using the computer and the automatic defragmenter comes on automatically? Can it work in the back ground or should I not be using the computer then?
 

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Home Made
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
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i5 3570K
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Gigabyte Ga z77x-ud3h
Memory
8GB (2X4) Corsair Vengeance
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GTX 660 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
24" Asus VS247h-p
Hard Drives
250gb WD Velociraptor
2tb WD caviar black
PSU
Corsair GS700 700W
Case
CM Storm Enforcer
It won't hurt anything, but it may slow your system down a little bit.
 

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Custom Built
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
CPU
Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z77
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz CL 9-9-9-24 1T
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW
Sound Card
Onboard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2309W
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
(4) Seagate 5TB HDD
(1) Seagate 2TB HDD
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Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular
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Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower
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Intel Liquid Cooler
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Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard
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Mionix Naos 7000
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Microsoft Security Essentials/Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
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Chrome/Firefox
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Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's
Asus RT-N66R Wireless Router
I only manually defrag after uninstalling/re-installing/updating many applications and OS. For instance, after applying a Service Pack...
 

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Microsoft Windows 8.1 Enterprise 64-bit
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32 GB 12800 DDR3 Crucial Ballistix Sport
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(1) Bluetooth Hands-free Audio (2) NVIDIA High Definition
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LG 27" HDMI
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12920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60Hz
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Intel 120GB SSD (ATA INTEL SSDSC2CT12 SCSI Disk Device)
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Corsair 750w fully modular
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Corsair 650D with perforated side panel
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Dell
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Windows Defender, MalWareBytes Pro and CCleaner Pro
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Chrome, IE and FireFox (latest versions)
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The Windows 7 defragmenter works well and runs in the background. You will not notice it running.
 

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Seasonic X-1050
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Logitech G510s
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ESET NOD32 13.1
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Will defrag programs, other then the windows standard, remove the restore points?

I seem to recall this issue and recently defraged with Auslogics, the restore points were gone.
 

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1. HP p6733w Desktop 2. HP Envy 700-515xt Desktop
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1. Windows 7 Home Premium sp1 - 64bit 2. Windows 7 Pro sp1 - 64bit
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1. AMD Phenom II x2 511 3.4GHz 2. Intel i7-4790 Quad 4.0GHz
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1. N-Alvorix-RS880-uATX 2. Kaili2
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1. 5 GB - DDR3 2. 8GB DDR3-1600MHz
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Integrated 1. ATI Radeon 4200 2. Intel HD Graphics 4600
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1. Realtek High Definition Audio 2. Realtek (Neutered Beats)
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1. Acer V193L 2. HP 2311 Series Wide LCD
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1. 1280 x 1024 2. 1920 x 1080
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1. 750 GB - 7200 RPM SATA 2. 1TB 7200 RPM SATA
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1. 250w 2. 300w
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Stock
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Logitech USB keyboard
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Logitech USB optical mouse
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1.0 - 2.0 mbps
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Eset Smart Security v9.0.349.0
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Pale Moon
Will defrag programs, other then the windows standard, remove the restore points?

I seem to recall this issue and recently defraged with Auslogics, the restore points were gone
I use Auslogics and normally defrag daily just to see my red(fragmented) files turn blue(defragged).

After a fiasco with a hard drive 10 days ago, I stopped and a few days later, all but one restore points were gone. Cause unknown.

I updated Auslogics yesterday and defragged with no loss of restore points.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium x64
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Will defrag programs, other then the windows standard, remove the restore points?

I seem to recall this issue and recently defraged with Auslogics, the restore points were gone
I use Auslogics and normally defrag daily just to see my red(fragmented) files turn blue(defragged).

After a fiasco with a hard drive 10 days ago, I stopped and a few days later, all but one restore points were gone. Cause unknown.

I updated Auslogics yesterday and defragged with no loss of restore points.

Thanks for the reply,

Based On your experience I gave Auslogics another try and my restore points remain.

Obviously it was not Auslogics and like you I have to say the loss of them the other day was "Cause Unknown".

Being one who makes a lot of mistakes I rely heavily on my backups and restore points. Thanks again for giving me the courage to try the program again.
 

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1. HP p6733w Desktop 2. HP Envy 700-515xt Desktop
OS
1. Windows 7 Home Premium sp1 - 64bit 2. Windows 7 Pro sp1 - 64bit
CPU
1. AMD Phenom II x2 511 3.4GHz 2. Intel i7-4790 Quad 4.0GHz
Motherboard
1. N-Alvorix-RS880-uATX 2. Kaili2
Memory
1. 5 GB - DDR3 2. 8GB DDR3-1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Integrated 1. ATI Radeon 4200 2. Intel HD Graphics 4600
Sound Card
1. Realtek High Definition Audio 2. Realtek (Neutered Beats)
Monitor(s) Displays
1. Acer V193L 2. HP 2311 Series Wide LCD
Screen Resolution
1. 1280 x 1024 2. 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1. 750 GB - 7200 RPM SATA 2. 1TB 7200 RPM SATA
PSU
1. 250w 2. 300w
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Stock
Keyboard
Logitech USB keyboard
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Logitech USB optical mouse
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1.0 - 2.0 mbps
Antivirus
Eset Smart Security v9.0.349.0
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Pale Moon
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