Solved startup time with 2 additional minutes when connected to the internet

Hello all,
When I am connected to the internet (either ethernet cable or wifi on), when windows 7 starts, after I entered the password, it takes 2 additional minutes, showing only a blank screen with my mouse cursor. With ccleaner I tried deactivating all windows programs in startup, and scheduled tasks, but it was still the same.

Each time I disconnect the wifi or the ethernet cable before booting, the desktops comes in less than one minute, no blank screen. How can I find out the culprit for these two minutes?

Thanks
Thierry

thierry2064,

Click on Start
Type msconfig and hit Enter
Click on the Startup tab
Check/Uncheck unneeded programs

TechOps, he's already done that via CCleaner.

thierry2064, what happens if you boot to Safe Mode with Networking?

Be careful what you disable there. Some of the drivers are necessary to run.

Open Event Viewer. (Click Start, type Event, select Event Viewer under Programs)

In the left pane, expand Applications and Services Logs > Microsoft > Windows then navigate down and expand Diagnostics-Performance. Click on Operational.

In the center pane, click on the first Event ID 100 line. Below that list click on Details Tab, then make sure the Friendly Orb is on.

In the right pane, click on Copy then select Copy Details as Text.

Paste the the text into a new reply here and post.


Sample Boot Event:

@Ztrucker: I have also a 2 minutes boot time in "safe mode with network" (10s less than with normal boot).
@carwiz: The diagnostics-Performance log is attached. I logged first with network connected, then not connected, I had exactly the same log in both cases, although the desktop takes 2 minutes more to appear when connected.

Sorry for a late annswer to your posts, in the meantime I reinstalled windows from a Windows 7 pro disk instead of the Lenovo disk,I had the 20s startup in the beginning, then after a couple of days of reinstalling stuffs I get the 2 additional minutes again, as expected (this is the third time I reinstall). If I look at the windows update history, the last update I have is the "Lenovo PM Device", and if I look in "restoring to an earlier time" the last installations I have are Epson WP-M4525 and Sharp MW-1800 multifonction drivers, Dell printer,VLC, Quicktime, apple software update, apple application support, gsyncit, a virtual credit card program, and updates of ccleaner, Chrome, Firefox. I am not sure if one of these caused the dealy, because it did not happened right after installation of any of these applications.

I can normally revert back to fast boot because I backed up my system drive with Acronis when it was fast (fyi, last time I backed up with Lenovo Rescue & Recovery and the restore was catastrophic, I wrote about it in another post). But I'd like to understand what is causing the delay first !

Thanks

Thierry

Update : Windows updated the Intel Management Engine Interface right now, it seems that I gained 1 minute in boot time.
Update 2 : After setting the time for Intel AMT to 1 in the BIOS, fast boot again, with desktop in 25 seconds in total.

Anyone can explain what happens with Intel AMT (unless it is a coincidence) ?
Thanks to all anyway.
Thierry

UPDATE 3 : wrong, boot time more than two minutes again...

Your boot startup programs (20) and user profile customizations are consuming the most time. Trim those back and boot time will decrease. That's well over 35 seconds worth.

For curiosity, start REGEDIT and snip/post the items under the following link. (Do NOT change anything)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems

Hi Carwiz,
Attached is the registry edit (pdf). I am curious to read what you can find out here! Also the last log of Diagnostics-Performance, when boot time came back to reasonable values.
Cheers
Thierry

The AMT BIOS thing finally did not work, my boot time is more than two minutes again. I am listening to you all...

The only extra I see in the Registry is the POSIX. This is usually included as part of PSXSS.EXC that establishes various system items and .NET needs. Not sure why it's added except perhaps for remote debugging with the Intel Management Engine. The "after Bios" boot times are less but there's still 20 startup programs in Windows boot. As an example, I have eight! This could be what we refer to here as PC Mfg. "Bloatware" but you don't give any details of your startup programs. Widows startup will take about 15 seconds and while your Prefetch loading is taking 2-4 seconds, you'll get that back (and then some) during use. Everything beyond that will be operational programs, drivers and extras. And it appears you have MANY extras.

Do you use a lot of desktop icons? Have many Users defined? Have any desktop Gadgets? These all add to startup time.

The Intel Management Engine is used for remote access by IT folks or for remote debugging. I don't know your situation so I can't advise on the removal of IME and remote debugging but it takes load time and memory even when not in use.

If you can post a snippet of your startup programs, we might be able to pick through it.
Go to Control Panel > Administrative Tools > System Configuration then click on the Startup tab. Use the Snipping Tool and capture the contents of the window. It will take multiple snips to get all 20 of yours.

Is this still the corrupt Lenovo factory preinstall with all the bloatware and useless duplicate utilities that have better versions built into Win7? I would do what most tech enthusiasts do which is to Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 to enjoy its native perfect performance you will never get with the Lenovo crap.

At the minimum I'd Clean Up Factory Bloatware now.

Now I think it is really solved, disconnecting all my office network drives, and not having them reconnect at startup,I am back to 30 s boot, thanks all for your help. My computer searched for the drives for more than two long minutes.

I am also wondeing if it had something to do with the solid color bug, I always put a solid color for my desktop, thinking it takes less ressources... that's weird!

Cheers

Thierry

You should not have to use solid color or other desperate optimizations since Win7 is always fast and never hangs on adequate hardware with a perfect install.

You can ignore it all you want but the Lenovo preinstall is the worst possible install, as is any factory OEM preisntall.

This site is the top resource anywhere for Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 s
so why not get it perfect now with our help?

gregrocker said:

You can ignore it all you want but the Lenovo preinstall is the worst possible install, as is any factory OEM preisntall.

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I agree, I already got rid of the lenovo and its bloatware three weeks ago and installed from a Window 7 pro original disk, after finding out that the Lenovo software just did not work as you say. If I had known the tutorial before I would have saved time, thanks for pointing out.

Be sure to remove any network listing from BIOS Boot priority in BIOS setup. This is the only reason a network HD should interfere with boot.

But if you can isolate a specific HD causing the boot slowdown then it's possible there is code in its boot sector interfering with Win7 boot.

To check if this resolves the situation move the data off the network HD to wipe it with Diskpart Clean Command, then repartition and move it back on.

Work through these Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7 to check for other clues after reconnecting the network drives causing boot slowdown.

If nothing else resolves this then try Gathering a Startup, Shutdown, Sleep, Hibernate, or Reboot Trace - Windows 7 Forums