| Windows 7: Pagefile, Temporary Int Files, Temp files reset after update |
18 Feb 2013
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ult X64 Melbourne, Australia |
Pagefile, Temporary Int Files, Temp files reset after update Hello,
I have a system with 32gb DDR3-2400, a 256GB SSD and a couple of spinners. I have set up 4gb of the RAM to be used as another RAMdisk using the softperfect software. This problem has been going on for some time, but has been more of a problem since I started using the RAMdisk. Not because the RAMdisk itself isn't working well, because the stuff that is stored there keeps getting reset.
I have pretty much identified that when updates are installed through windows update (either from Microsoft update or from my WSUS server), the following are reset to defaults
1. Pagefile is automatically managed and stored on the C: drive and is set to 32gb
2. The TEMP and TMP environment variables are reset to the C:\users default location
3. The temporary Internet Files location is reset to the default C:\users... location
There may be others that I have not discovered.
I have manually set my swap file to 1024/2048 on the D:\ drive (a spinner), on the belief that it should rarely if ever be needed with a system equipped with 32GB of RAM. I'm certainly not inclined to waste 32GB of space on my SSD for an unused object.
I have placed the TMP/TEMP files, cookies and Temporary Internet files on the RAMdisk to squeeze a little extra performance out of the system. (Yes, I know, I'm not really getting much benefit).
Photoshop and a few other programs also use the RAMdisk as a scratch disk, and were the main reason I set it up in the first place.
This is becoming a real pain when it gets reset as I have to manually change everything again.
Anyone know a way to make windows leave settings at what I set them, instead of having it continually reset the values to what it wants? I'd prefer to have it my way. I know there will be proponents of "leave things as windows wants it". | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Made OS Windows 7 Ult X64 CPU Intel I7-3770K Motherboard ASRock Extreme 4 Memory 32GB G-Skill C11Q Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 2GB SC Sound Card Creative Fataility Gamer Monitor(s) Displays LG E2742V x 2 Screen Resolution 1920x10880 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Corsair HX 650 Case Whitebox Cooling Noctua NH-U9B-SE2 Hard Drives 256GB Vertex 4 SSD
1GB Seagate ST1000DM001 Internet Speed Dodo ADSL 2+ 1 mbps Antivirus Malwarebytes Browser IE 8 Other Info Router: D-Link 2740B |
19 Feb 2013
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#2 | | Microsoft Windows 8 Professional |
Sounds like the ramdisk is not saving or updating its contents? Try another brand liek Dataram, works great for me. | My System Specs | | OS Microsoft Windows 8 Professional CPU AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor Motherboard ECS A790GXM-AD3 Memory 16.00 GB Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7850 2GB Sound Card (1) C-Media PCI Audio Device (2) AMD HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG LS192WS Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 @ 32bit color Keyboard Dell SK-8115 Mouse Razer Copperhead PSU Corsair HX620 Case Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 + Artic Silver 3 on CPU/GPU Hard Drives (1) ST31000524AS SATA Disk Device (2) ST3500413AS SATA Disk Device AHCI mode enabled. |
19 Feb 2013
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ult X64 Melbourne, Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by OldMX Sounds like the ramdisk is not saving or updating its contents? Try another brand liek Dataram, works great for me. Thanks for your response and recommendation.
Sorry, with all due respect, the problem is not the ramdisk. It does save it's contents properly.
The problem has been occuring long before I installed the RAMDisk.
This typically happens whenever Windows updates are installed, whether directly from Microsoft update or via my WSUS server.
thanks | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Made OS Windows 7 Ult X64 CPU Intel I7-3770K Motherboard ASRock Extreme 4 Memory 32GB G-Skill C11Q Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 2GB SC Sound Card Creative Fataility Gamer Monitor(s) Displays LG E2742V x 2 Screen Resolution 1920x10880 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Corsair HX 650 Case Whitebox Cooling Noctua NH-U9B-SE2 Hard Drives 256GB Vertex 4 SSD
1GB Seagate ST1000DM001 Internet Speed Dodo ADSL 2+ 1 mbps Antivirus Malwarebytes Browser IE 8 Other Info Router: D-Link 2740B |
19 Feb 2013
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC The problem has been occuring long before I installed the RAMDisk.
This typically happens whenever Windows updates are installed, whether directly from Microsoft update or via my WSUS server. Hi,
I've never heard of that before. Perhaps its the installation itself? I suggest posting an MGADIAG report and also running SURT so we can try find out the cause. Windows Genuine and Activation Issue Posting Instructions Windows Update Posting Instructions
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 25 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
20 Feb 2013
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ult X64 Melbourne, Australia |
Hi,
Yes it is very strange. Of course, reinstalling windows from scratch was one of the firs things I tried. I think I've done that three times now. I also turned off updates for just over a month, and the problem never once happened during that time. But as soon as I turned on updates, and updates were installed, the system defaulted things back.
Please note that updates are not failing, at least not that I can see.
Anyway.. Code:
Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
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Windows Validation Data-->
Validation Code: 0
Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
Windows Product Key: *****-*****-VWHG7-F262M-GW2D3
Windows Product Key Hash: qXrtiLjQi6bYGI36AFHnuN57rRk=
Windows Product ID: 00426-069-0527356-86109
Windows Product ID Type: 5
Windows License Type: Retail
Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.001
ID: {13071E8B-857C-4AC5-B613-9779B02CB87C}(1)
Is Admin: Yes
TestCab: 0x0
LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Product Name: Windows 7 Ultimate
Architecture: 0x00000009
Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.130104-1431
TTS Error:
Validation Diagnostic:
Resolution Status: N/A
Vista WgaER Data-->
ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Windows XP Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
File Exists: No
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGA Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGA Data-->
Office Status: 109 N/A
OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3
Browser Data-->
Proxy settings: N/A
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
Default Browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
Active scripting: Allowed
Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed
File Scan Data-->
File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watadminsvc.exe[Hr = 0x80070003]
File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\npwatweb.dll[Hr = 0x80070003]
File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watux.exe[Hr = 0x80070003]
File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watweb.dll[Hr = 0x80070003]
Other data-->
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Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002
Licensing Data-->
Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514
Name: Windows(R) 7, Ultimate edition
Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
Activation ID: a0cde89c-3304-4157-b61c-c8ad785d1fad
Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
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Installation ID: 003084261162667464702666453211237920168274817660508251
Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
Partial Product Key: GW2D3
License Status: Licensed
Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
Trusted time: 21/02/2013 07:39:48
Windows Activation Technologies-->
HrOffline: 0x00000000
HrOnline: N/A
HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
Event Time Stamp: N/A
ActiveX: Not Registered - 0x80040154
Admin Service: Not Registered - 0x80040154
HealthStatus Bitmask Output:
HWID Data-->
HWID Hash Current: PAAAAAMABAABAAEAAQACAAAAAwABAAEAhFEmUc2OQeh3FhLCdMTo7cK/bHech7L7wHzkLmC5coq+QZZj
OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
N/A
OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
Windows marker version: N/A
OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
BIOS Information:
ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
APIC ALASKA A M I
FACP ALASKA A M I
HPET ALASKA A M I
MCFG ALASKA A M I
FPDT ALASKA A M I
SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
AAFT ALASKA OEMAAFT
SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
BGRT ALASKA A M I | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Made OS Windows 7 Ult X64 CPU Intel I7-3770K Motherboard ASRock Extreme 4 Memory 32GB G-Skill C11Q Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 2GB SC Sound Card Creative Fataility Gamer Monitor(s) Displays LG E2742V x 2 Screen Resolution 1920x10880 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Corsair HX 650 Case Whitebox Cooling Noctua NH-U9B-SE2 Hard Drives 256GB Vertex 4 SSD
1GB Seagate ST1000DM001 Internet Speed Dodo ADSL 2+ 1 mbps Antivirus Malwarebytes Browser IE 8 Other Info Router: D-Link 2740B |
17 Mar 2013
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ult X64 Melbourne, Australia |
Hi,
Back online at last, after spending the last several weeks moving house.
Has anyone had an opportunity to look at this issue and offer and advice or assistance?
Thanks
Tanya | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Made OS Windows 7 Ult X64 CPU Intel I7-3770K Motherboard ASRock Extreme 4 Memory 32GB G-Skill C11Q Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 2GB SC Sound Card Creative Fataility Gamer Monitor(s) Displays LG E2742V x 2 Screen Resolution 1920x10880 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Corsair HX 650 Case Whitebox Cooling Noctua NH-U9B-SE2 Hard Drives 256GB Vertex 4 SSD
1GB Seagate ST1000DM001 Internet Speed Dodo ADSL 2+ 1 mbps Antivirus Malwarebytes Browser IE 8 Other Info Router: D-Link 2740B |
17 Mar 2013
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#7 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |
Please downloadand save the CheckSUR tool from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821 (you'll need tolook in the details for Windows 7, downloading from the Microsoft DownloadCenter) Run it - The toolcan take anywhere from 5 mins to a couple of hours to run (or 'Install')depending on how much it has to do, and may exit silently - it may appear tofreeze for most of that time, but be patient. The result islogged in the C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CheckSUR.log file - and an archive …\checksur.persist.log file Then zip theCheckSUR.log and attach it to your reply | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
20 Mar 2013
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ult X64 Melbourne, Australia |
Hi,
Attached is the log file as requested.
Tanya | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Made OS Windows 7 Ult X64 CPU Intel I7-3770K Motherboard ASRock Extreme 4 Memory 32GB G-Skill C11Q Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 2GB SC Sound Card Creative Fataility Gamer Monitor(s) Displays LG E2742V x 2 Screen Resolution 1920x10880 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Corsair HX 650 Case Whitebox Cooling Noctua NH-U9B-SE2 Hard Drives 256GB Vertex 4 SSD
1GB Seagate ST1000DM001 Internet Speed Dodo ADSL 2+ 1 mbps Antivirus Malwarebytes Browser IE 8 Other Info Router: D-Link 2740B |
20 Mar 2013
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#9 | | Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) Wales - probably in the pub |
The CheckSUR result is clear - and at 50 seconds, it rates as possibly the quickest scan I've ever seen!
All I can think of is that the RAMDrive is being unloaded out-of-sequence on shutdown, and this is causing problems on the subsequent reboot.
Have you checked the Event Viewer to see what's logged at such times?
I'm assuming that a normal restart doesn't affect the settings. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus K52F OS Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM) CPU i3 370M Motherboard Asus Memory 8GB - finally :) Graphics Card it's an i3, dude! Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" built-in Screen Resolution 1366x768 PSU n/a Hard Drives 750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network Internet Speed as much as I can get - usually on a dongle, so <1Mb/s Antivirus MSE Browser IE10/Chrome/FF(if I must) |
20 Mar 2013
|
#10 | | Windows 7 Ult X64 Melbourne, Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by NoelDP The CheckSUR result is clear - and at 50 seconds, it rates as possibly the quickest scan I've ever seen!
All I can think of is that the RAMDrive is being unloaded out-of-sequence on shutdown, and this is causing problems on the subsequent reboot.
Have you checked the Event Viewer to see what's logged at such times?
I'm assuming that a normal restart doesn't affect the settings. The problem existed before I intalled the RAMDrive. I mentioned it was installed for completeness only.
No, a normal restart does not effect the settings. The system has a shutdown task too, and that doesn't cause any problems.
The event viewer shows what you would expect; No errors.
It's not just the files on the ramdrive that are affected. The swap file is moved from my C: drive (ssd), to my D:\ drive (spinner). It's set to 1024/2048, and I have 32gb of memory intalled. When the problem occurs the custom pagefile settings are defaulted back to "system managed" and on C: drive.
It's not every update that causes the problem. I guess I will have to manually intall updates for a while and see if I can nail down what "type" of update is the culprit.
Tanya | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Made OS Windows 7 Ult X64 CPU Intel I7-3770K Motherboard ASRock Extreme 4 Memory 32GB G-Skill C11Q Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 2GB SC Sound Card Creative Fataility Gamer Monitor(s) Displays LG E2742V x 2 Screen Resolution 1920x10880 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Corsair HX 650 Case Whitebox Cooling Noctua NH-U9B-SE2 Hard Drives 256GB Vertex 4 SSD
1GB Seagate ST1000DM001 Internet Speed Dodo ADSL 2+ 1 mbps Antivirus Malwarebytes Browser IE 8 Other Info Router: D-Link 2740B Pagefile, Temporary Int Files, Temp files reset after update problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:16 PM. | |