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Windows 7: Slow boot after desktop shows but not before, windows x64


24 Feb 2013   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Slow boot after desktop shows but not before, windows x64

So as the title says, for some reason this pc has started to take a few minutes to boot after the desktop shows up but before that the system boots fast.

Have a 1tb seagate sata3 drive as the main drive, yes yes i know i should get a ssd but now is not the time, in the mean time i'd like to figure out what could be causing these slowdowns.
After booting is complete the system runs fine, no direct slowdowns of any sort.

What's been tried:
No viruses, no spyware
Not a bad hdd, been testing that
Removed unnecessary processes/programs from running, most of them set to manual if the system needs them.
Defraged, slight speed increase
Defraged registry, only a few times if it's been needed.

Programs starting at bootup:
Comodo IS
Cacheman, tweaking program
Bluetooth app
Smartdoctor, info app for my graphics card
Asus AI suite II, have uninstalled and reinstalled this app but to no change, tested speed with and without it.

Hopefully i've added enough info to start finding some issues.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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24 Feb 2013   #2

Windows 7
 
 

I would suspect your AV software first although Comodo IS is unfamiliar to me so its just a guess having seen similar problems with AVG and Kaspersky IS until bug fixes arrived. If you're feeling brave, disable it and reboot.

Other than that, I've seen issues with plugged in USB devices, so try unplugging everything apart from the mouse and reboot.
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24 Feb 2013   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Disabled comodo, pretty much same deal just a litle faster.

The IS in comodo means internet security, free antivirus but has everything you need, not running the latest version cause i'm waiting on the upgrade patch from 5.12 to 6.

All usb's unplugged except mouse, no change.
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25 Feb 2013   #4

Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Elvi View Post
So as the title says, for some reason this pc has started to take a few minutes to boot after the desktop shows up but before that the system boots fast.

Have a 1tb seagate sata3 drive as the main drive, yes yes i know i should get a ssd but now is not the time, in the mean time i'd like to figure out what could be causing these slowdowns.
After booting is complete the system runs fine, no direct slowdowns of any sort.

What's been tried:
No viruses, no spyware
Not a bad hdd, been testing that
Removed unnecessary processes/programs from running, most of them set to manual if the system needs them.
Defraged, slight speed increase
Defraged registry, only a few times if it's been needed.

Programs starting at bootup:
Comodo IS
Cacheman, tweaking program
Bluetooth app
Smartdoctor, info app for my graphics card
Asus AI suite II, have uninstalled and reinstalled this app but to no change, tested speed with and without it.

Hopefully i've added enough info to start finding some issues.
1. Uninstall any programs you don't need.
2. Then, go to start and type in msconfig and press enter. Click on the startup tab and disable anything you don't need.
3. Try uninstalling comodo IS and install Microsoft Security Essentials, which can be downloaded here: Microsoft Security Essentials - Microsoft Windows
4. Remove any tweaking programs you have installed on your computer. I don't recommend using tweaking programs.
5. Uninstall any programs you do not need.
6. Go to start and type in disk cleanup then press enter. Once disk cleanup comes up, click on Clean up system files. Check all of the check boxes and then on OK. Note: Cleaning Service Pack backup files will remove the ability to uninstall Service Pack 1.
7. Run disk defragmenter again on all hard drives that you have plugged in.
8 Run a malware scan with Malwarebytes Anti-Malware which can be downloaded here: Download Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.70 - FileHippo.com
Note: Malwarebytes will have a ckeckbox check at the end of the installation that says " Enable free Trial of Malwarebytes Pro." Be sure to uncheck that checkbox.
Also, if you disabled any Windows services or set them to manual, set them back to what they originally were.
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25 Feb 2013   #5

Desk1 8 Pro / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 8.1 Pro all 64bit
 
 

Hum never had a problem myself with either CIS or KIS but all things being equal....

Bitdefender is pretty light on if you are looking for a free AV.

Another option is go through this tutorial if you don't mind losing a bit of the "bling" like transparency.

Optimize Windows 7 < Point 7 method 3 is very useful - I leave the OS and security ticked as a precaution in Startup. But the other points are as good for loosening up the machine
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25 Feb 2013   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by windude99 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Elvi View Post
So as the title says, for some reason this pc has started to take a few minutes to boot after the desktop shows up but before that the system boots fast.

Have a 1tb seagate sata3 drive as the main drive, yes yes i know i should get a ssd but now is not the time, in the mean time i'd like to figure out what could be causing these slowdowns.
After booting is complete the system runs fine, no direct slowdowns of any sort.

What's been tried:
No viruses, no spyware
Not a bad hdd, been testing that
Removed unnecessary processes/programs from running, most of them set to manual if the system needs them.
Defraged, slight speed increase
Defraged registry, only a few times if it's been needed.

Programs starting at bootup:
Comodo IS
Cacheman, tweaking program
Bluetooth app
Smartdoctor, info app for my graphics card
Asus AI suite II, have uninstalled and reinstalled this app but to no change, tested speed with and without it.

Hopefully i've added enough info to start finding some issues.
1. Uninstall any programs you don't need.
2. Then, go to start and type in msconfig and press enter. Click on the startup tab and disable anything you don't need.
3. Try uninstalling comodo IS and install Microsoft Security Essentials, which can be downloaded here: Microsoft Security Essentials - Microsoft Windows
4. Remove any tweaking programs you have installed on your computer. I don't recommend using tweaking programs.
5. Uninstall any programs you do not need.
6. Go to start and type in disk cleanup then press enter. Once disk cleanup comes up, click on Clean up system files. Check all of the check boxes and then on OK. Note: Cleaning Service Pack backup files will remove the ability to uninstall Service Pack 1.
7. Run disk defragmenter again on all hard drives that you have plugged in.
8 Run a malware scan with Malwarebytes Anti-Malware which can be downloaded here: Download Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.70 - FileHippo.com
Note: Malwarebytes will have a ckeckbox check at the end of the installation that says " Enable free Trial of Malwarebytes Pro." Be sure to uncheck that checkbox.
Also, if you disabled any Windows services or set them to manual, set them back to what they originally were.
1. already been done.

2. same

3. as far as i know it's not comodo that's the issue, it's very light on the resources and not everything is even enabled on it and i don't plan on going to another av suite.

4. i've used cacheman for years, thinking back to windows 98, it's safe and does improve the speed of the systems rather nicely.

5. you said this already in 1.

6. done multiple times.

7. i do this next to monthly.

8. already done that, also with spybot.

I've only disabled services i know to be safe thanks to this site Black Viper’s Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Service Configurations | Black Viper | www.blackviper.com


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Hum never had a problem myself with either CIS or KIS but all things being equal....

Bitdefender is pretty light on if you are looking for a free AV.

Another option is go through this tutorial if you don't mind losing a bit of the "bling" like transparency.

Optimize Windows 7 < Point 7 method 3 is very useful - I leave the OS and security ticked as a precaution in Startup. But the other points are as good for loosening up the machine
Not planing on another antivirus app and from what i know i've already loosend up this machine as much as i can so something is slowing it down at boot BUT it runs fine for most of the time after, on ocation i can hear the hd go up to full use when say looking at a website "seldom happens" or starting another app but usualy it's just safe sailing heh.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
25 Feb 2013   #7

Desk1 8 Pro / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 8.1 Pro all 64bit
 
 

Yes well I would stick with Comodo as I don't think it is that either as I said I think somewhere back I have never experienced and problems with it.

I am just curious as to what Cacheman is as I don't like any of those "this will make your computer go faster" programs if indeed it is one of that type of software.

I suppose you have tried chkdsk I can't remember without ploughing back through the thread

Disk Check

and also (for the same reason)


http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/< download from bleeping computer


http://www.superantispyware.com/

There are some more in-depth scanners but try these first

As an afterthought if yo haven't tried testing the drives -http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/seatools/seatools-win-master/
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26 Feb 2013   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I should probably add that i'm in the computer support buisness myself so i've handled similair things before but this one has me stumped.

Cacheman is one of those programs but this one actually works especially if your low on ram and it uses known tweaks of windows that you can use yourselfs, this is just easier also handles ram, IF your curious then read here.
How to speed up your computer and make your pc faster - Free trial

Disk check found nothing as expected, i've run surface scans before too with nothing showing up including SMART scans.

Note i've run multiple spyware apps before this.

adwcleaner showed this
Quote:
# AdwCleaner v2.113 - Logfile created 02/26/2013 at 17:23:44
# Updated 23/02/2013 by Xplode
# Operating system : Windows 7 Ultimate Service Pack 1 (64 bits)
# User : Anders - ELVIS
# Boot Mode : Normal
# Running from : C:\Users\Anders\Desktop\AdwCleaner.exe
# Option [Search]

***** [Services] *****

***** [Files / Folders] *****
Folder Found : C:\Users\Anders\AppData\LocalLow\boost_interprocess
***** [Registry] *****
Key Found : HKCU\Software\Conduit
Key Found : HKLM\Software\Conduit
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Extension Compatibility\{2EECD738-5844-4A99-B4B6-146BF802613B}
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Extension Compatibility\{97F2FF5B-260C-4CCF-834A-2DDA4E29E39E}
Key Found : HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Extension Compatibility\{98889811-442D-49DD-99D7-DC866BE87DBC}
***** [Internet Browsers] *****
-\\ Internet Explorer v9.0.8112.16464
[OK] Registry is clean.
-\\ Mozilla Firefox v18.0.2 (sv-SE)
File : C:\Users\Anders\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\a7qvcxio.default\prefs.js
[OK] File is clean.
*************************
AdwCleaner[R1].txt - [1286 octets] - [26/02/2013 17:11:25]
AdwCleaner[R2].txt - [1346 octets] - [26/02/2013 17:22:52]
AdwCleaner[R3].txt - [1277 octets] - [26/02/2013 17:23:44]
########## EOF - C:\AdwCleaner[R3].txt - [1337 octets] ##########
And seatools just sits there with the message "SCSI: Scanning for supported drivers. Please wait..." atleast for 10 minutes and yes .NET 4 is installed.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
26 Feb 2013   #9

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Edit on seatools, just managed to get it working, phew buggy app to say the least but SMART and a few other tests went thru clean.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
26 Feb 2013   #10

Desk1 8 Pro / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Laptop 8.1 Pro all 64bit
 
 

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