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Windows 7: Occasional slow boot time despite using an SSD.

11 Apr 2013   #11
PSCO2007

Windows 7 Professional X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Raynian View Post
@PSCO2007 : Crystaldiskinfo is stating my SSD as 100% good condition. I updated the Samsung Magician software to v4.0, and now it states that there is insuffcient diskspace for over-provisioning ?! I recalled that there is some over-provisioning when the software is v3.2.

My SSD still has 89GB free.. That's still a reasonable amount I guess..

@carwiz : By boot logs, do you mean the auto-generated ntbtlog.txt ?
I use the 3.10 version - does your SSD show an unallocated segment?




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11 Apr 2013   #12
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

However, occasionally the boot times tend to be slow, as it spins at the "Welcome" screen for quite some time.


Well I was thrown by this post#1 and the only reason I asked re the TRIM and SFC as I always like to start simple but I suppose that is what I must be.

Anyway see the others have got it under control so hope things get fixed for you.
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11 Apr 2013   #13
Raynian

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

I attached .txt file with a few selected evt 100 entries with longer than usual boot times. There are a few with extremely abnormal boot times and is categorised as an error too.

My boot time is usally around 22000-35000ms .

On a sidenote, I booted up today and my laptop hung at the Windows logo. But the Event Viewer didn't show any related errors.. =/

logs.txt


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11 Apr 2013   #14
Raynian

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

@PSCO2007 : Nope, my SSD is still shown as a primary partition.
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11 Apr 2013   #15
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PSCO2007 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz View Post
These will be *.EVTX files. Click the Orb, type Event then select Event Viewer.

Expand: Applications and Services Logs
>Microsoft
>Windows
>Diagnostics-Performance
Select Operational

In the lower-center pane, click on the Details tab. This will display Windows Boot times by major steps. You can click on the Copy in the right pane to copy the data as a text file then post it here.

The screen will look something like this.
I use a different program (mentioned on this forum), but following your method there is no boot time entry.
Event 305 is a log file validation error. So you either changed/modified logging parameters or you have some type of disk error occurring. I can't help any more from the log side so I'll stand back and watch.
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11 Apr 2013   #16
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

Code:
 
<Data Name="BootNumStartupApps">23</Data>
 
<Data Name="OSLoaderDuration">1028</Data>
<Data Name="BootPNPInitDuration">557</Data>
<Data Name="OtherKernelInitDuration">432</Data>
<Data Name="SystemPNPInitDuration">406</Data>
<Data Name="Session0InitDuration">3091</Data>
<Data Name="Session1InitDuration">181</Data>
<Data Name="SessionInitOtherDuration">610</Data>
 
<Data Name="OtherLogonInitActivityDuration">28772</Data>
<Data Name="UserLogonWaitDuration">6548</Data>
You have 23 startup apps! Some of those under a user account are taking almost 29 seconds to start up. You should review these and see if they are all really necessary or check to see if auto update is an option and turn it off. You may have one or more "phoning home" to check for updates or authentication. (Or sending your "habits" data - Google tool bar is good for doing this, as well as others.)
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12 Apr 2013   #17
Raynian

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz View Post
Code:
 
<Data Name="BootNumStartupApps">23</Data>
 
<Data Name="OSLoaderDuration">1028</Data>
<Data Name="BootPNPInitDuration">557</Data>
<Data Name="OtherKernelInitDuration">432</Data>
<Data Name="SystemPNPInitDuration">406</Data>
<Data Name="Session0InitDuration">3091</Data>
<Data Name="Session1InitDuration">181</Data>
<Data Name="SessionInitOtherDuration">610</Data>
 
<Data Name="OtherLogonInitActivityDuration">28772</Data>
<Data Name="UserLogonWaitDuration">6548</Data>
You have 23 startup apps! Some of those under a user account are taking almost 29 seconds to start up. You should review these and see if they are all really necessary or check to see if auto update is an option and turn it off. You may have one or more "phoning home" to check for updates or authentication. (Or sending your "habits" data - Google tool bar is good for doing this, as well as others.)
I've reduced the number of startup apps to about 18 via AutoRuns.

The remaining ones are usually Intel and system processes such as the HD audio background process.

Hopefully it is better now. Will report back with logs if it has abnormal boot times once again.
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12 Apr 2013   #18
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

This may be of some help. Take a look at # 7 & 8.

Optimize Windows 7

Then if you can post one of these.

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A little how to from here.

Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums


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13 Apr 2013   #19
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

I was going to say that 'bootup' time includes all your startup apps also, so Windows itself is speedy, but all the post boot loads still need you to be patient.

SSD wear and tear wise, I dedicated another HD's partition strictly for all the temp stuff that I could, and you go in and aim windows at that partition and folders made there for that purpose.

Sean's guide probably covered that all.

I hope you don't have your pagefile.sys on your SSD (Virtual memory) or Hibernation on there.
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13 Apr 2013   #20
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

What's wrong with a pagefile on SSD? That's where it ought to be. Sequential reads and writes (which is how the pagefile is used) is lightening fast. If you got it, use it. My SSD is over two years old and still shows 99% life. I can live with that wear and tear to get the biggest bang for the buck out my SSD. Next to more RAM, a SSD is perfect for a pagefile. And, I'm still getting a 7.9 out of it on WEI. Use it or loose it!

Hibernation is a different story. It too is sequential but it's not like it needs to be fast. Personally, I don't use it and save the disk space. If I'm not going to be on my PC for several hours, I shut it down.
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