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Windows 7: Almost all memory used up during and after extraction or installation

21 Jun 2013   #11
CrimsonDog

Win7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW7ncus View Post
Sort the list by Private (KB) descending to see if it shows something different where a lot of memory is used.
The situation is not really handy to replicate, but i tried that and it didn't make much difference. No task really goes above the 200k MB used limit, no matter the column, so it looked much the same like the shown picture.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Razer2k13 View Post
I already encountered this problem before, I just turn off/disabled other programs that is not very important or not useful to me. And I only have 2gb of ram lol but my computer runs properly
just try to disable some unnecessary stuffs.
The issue happens whichever applications i have open at the time, even when the only application is the Setup/7zip.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sdadamo View Post
Honestly I would turn off the Rainmeter because I noticed even on 6GB of ram I had issues extracting while running other things and then it went way better after doing the said instruction. Also if you're not running Chrome for REAL, it's okay to kill the other chrome things in the monitor to get some additional memory back (I'm pretty sure whatever you kill will come back after a restart or opening Chrome after you're done). Also Photoshop is not something I would run while extracting something huge which will take the living heck out of your computer (ESPECIALLY WITH A MOBILE I3). You can always get more RAM though.

You should look into disabling services that you don't really need - those take up some serious memory. There are numerous sites for that such as:
Black Viper’s Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Service Configurations

You should also look into your startup items which can and will use more memory.
Rainmeter is not an issue since i tried turning it off, Chrome as well. No change. It seems it happens no matter what applications i have open at the time, it just takes up all the available memory possible.
I only opened photoshop to paste the PrintScreen.

I wouldn't really mess around with services.
After the second picture, i tried killing the host process for some services (svchost.exe, newbie move), and it froze for about a minute

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LMiller7 View Post
I would be very wary about disabling system services. Unless your system is seriously short on memory this is unlikely to produce any significant savings.
The big problem with disabling service is that there is no publicly available documentation that completely describes the functions they perform. The descriptions that are available are incomplete and often contain errors, sometimes serious. Many an expert has got themselves into serious trouble by disabling some service that was thought to be unnecessary, but was.

Note that setting a service startup state to Manual is not a safe alternative to disabling it. In this state a service can be started if they system or an application needs it. But you can't assume that this will actually happen. Many applications will assume a service is running and fail if it is not.
Exactly.

I don't really think services are my problem. Unless, you know, a service can cause a huge memory leak.


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21 Jun 2013   #12
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

It would be useful to see a screenshot of Task Manager - Performance tab, when the problem occurs. There is important and possibly critical information there.
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21 Jun 2013   #13
iRazer

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
 
 

Yeah, Let us see. Maybe we can solve your problem asap.
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21 Jun 2013   #14
CrimsonDog

Win7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LMiller7 View Post
It would be useful to see a screenshot of Task Manager - Performance tab, when the problem occurs. There is important and possibly critical information there.
Is there something critical you need from there?
The CPU usage is about normal, so there's nothing there.
Physical memory usage is consistently at 90+%
Physical Memory numbers are shown in the pictures.
The only thing that I don't recall so it isn't available is the System section (Handles, Threads, Processes, Uptime and Commit(MB)) and the Kernel Memory section (Paged, Nonpaged).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Razer2k13 View Post
Yeah, Let us see. Maybe we can solve your problem asap.
Do you have something particular in mind?

EDIT: I'm going to go ahead and try to find another big installation so i can get to the bottom of this.
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21 Jun 2013   #15
sdadamo

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CrimsonDog View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LMiller7 View Post
It would be useful to see a screenshot of Task Manager - Performance tab, when the problem occurs. There is important and possibly critical information there.
Is there something critical you need from there?
The CPU usage is about normal, so there's nothing there.
Physical memory usage is consistently at 90+%
Physical Memory numbers are shown in the pictures.
The only thing that I don't recall so it isn't available is the System section (Handles, Threads, Processes, Uptime and Commit(MB)) and the Kernel Memory section (Paged, Nonpaged).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Razer2k13 View Post
Yeah, Let us see. Maybe we can solve your problem asap.
Do you have something particular in mind?

EDIT: I'm going to go ahead and try to find another big installation so i can get to the bottom of this.
Ok give us a picture of what's using your memory in your processes tab. If you're not extracting and it's at 90%+, extraction isn't your problem. Something has to be using up your memory.
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21 Jun 2013   #16
CrimsonDog

Win7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sdadamo View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CrimsonDog View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LMiller7 View Post
It would be useful to see a screenshot of Task Manager - Performance tab, when the problem occurs. There is important and possibly critical information there.
Is there something critical you need from there?
The CPU usage is about normal, so there's nothing there.
Physical memory usage is consistently at 90+%
Physical Memory numbers are shown in the pictures.
The only thing that I don't recall so it isn't available is the System section (Handles, Threads, Processes, Uptime and Commit(MB)) and the Kernel Memory section (Paged, Nonpaged).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Razer2k13 View Post
Yeah, Let us see. Maybe we can solve your problem asap.
Do you have something particular in mind?

EDIT: I'm going to go ahead and try to find another big installation so i can get to the bottom of this.
Ok give us a picture of what's using your memory in your processes tab. If you're not extracting and it's at 90%+, extraction isn't your problem. Something has to be using up your memory.
Give me of list of logs or such you need/want to see, because it's questionable whether or not i'll be able to access this page during the process
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21 Jun 2013   #17
sdadamo

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Just the full list of processes. You may have a bunch of unnecessary things running that are constantly clogging up your memory.
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21 Jun 2013   #18
CrimsonDog

Win7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sdadamo View Post
Just the full list of processes. You may have a bunch of unnecessary things running that are constantly clogging up your memory.
So just the process list? Nothing else?
Just throw at me everything that MAY be useful in this situation, it's not an easy thing to replicate

EDIT: Installing PES'13, at 86% usage, still responsive
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21 Jun 2013   #19
sdadamo

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Well like I said before, if you're not extracting and it's still stuck on 90% it's bound to be something running, a glitch, a possible hardware issue but let's hope it's just that you have some processes to kill; so yes just the process list.
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21 Jun 2013   #20
CrimsonDog

Win7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sdadamo View Post
Well like I said before, if you're not extracting and it's still stuck on 90% it's bound to be something running, a glitch, a possible hardware issue but let's hope it's just that you have some processes to kill; so yes just the process list.
God, I hope it isn't a hardware issue. Its not exactly a detrimental problem, but it's really annoying.

Install is half-way, 95% usage, still responsive, but a bit sluggish.
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