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Windows 7: ReBoot Time [2]

12 Aug 2013   #101
earled

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

nope he said boots from being off. I call BS


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12 Aug 2013   #102
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

A reboot will take longer than a boot, so I will say 10 seconds is certainly possible.

Paul
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12 Aug 2013   #103
earled

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

really. Im surprised. Seems very fast. Must have some seriously nice Hardware to do that.

I have a samsung 840pro ssd in my laptop Samsung i7 and my reboot is 21 sec.
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12 Aug 2013   #104
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by earled View Post
someone posted on another forum that his PC boots in 10 sec. Is this possible? I LOL when I read that, thinking he exaggerated abit.
Well on this machine I ma on now - a Toshiba laptop four years old I am trying out 8 as an upgrade and I have it starting up with a desktop view after login just like 7 (using Stardock8) it boots from cold in max 6 seconds and shuts down in max 1 second. Nothing fancy under the bonnet an i5 430M and 8GB 1333 RAM although it does have a SanDisk Extreme SSD. Even so before it used to boot in 30 seconds and close in around 20 seconds.
Summary
Power on > Metro tower screen > touch the spacebar > login page 6 seconds > 1 second > desktop.

I am very curious as to what is going to happen when I try this out on my Sandy bridge which has much better specs hardware wise. But at the moment to all intents and purpose I am just using it as per Windows 7
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12 Aug 2013   #105
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by earled View Post
really. Im surprised. Seems very fast. Must have some seriously nice Hardware to do that.

I have a samsung 840pro ssd in my laptop Samsung i7 and my reboot is 21 sec.
Maybe it was Windows 8?

A Guy
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13 Aug 2013   #106
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

You may be right Bill I tried a reboot last night (that laptop with 8) with several open tabs and email plus a Speccy running and my reboot was 20 secs as opposed to the 5 sec start up the shut down though is still almost instantaneous.
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13 Aug 2013   #107
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
I think it's mostly due to the Z87 Deluxe board, it spend less time fricking around in POSTing. It also has a "Fast boot" option which I used too. I think I can do better by turning off some USB initializing too. Of course I'll post if I get a lower time.
Gary what app are you using to get that readout please? Cos my Ivy takes forever in that POST bit too. But I only have the Z77-V board though.
From Shawn's tutorial here: Restart Time

This one will tell you how long you beast takes to reboot.

Restart Time.vbs


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15 Aug 2013   #108
alan10

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
 
 

A cold start takes time doing things which a Reboot omits.

After a prolonged shut-down all the hardware is ready for hardware initialisation upon startup,
and amongst other things :-
my WDC HDD has a "spinup time" of 5.1 seconds, and becomes disk 0;
my Samsung HDD has a "spinup time" of 8.1 seconds, and becomes disk 1;
my OCZ SSD never spins and takes much longer doing whatever SSD's have to do before they are ready for Windows to enumerate and call this thing Disk 2.

A Reboot never extinguishes the "running lights" and there is no general hardware reset on all hardware that needs it.
With Windows 7 the result of a Reboot is that the SSD is "enumerated" a bit quicker and becomes either Disk 1 or Disk 0 and the HDD's make way for it, which confuses the totals and averages produced by HDS when monitoring total reads and writes.
Some years before Windows 95 I had a PC with a serial interface card,
and sometimes the card would crash a a Reboot never fixed it, it only recovered after a shutdown.

A prolonged delay between Power on and Windows 7 launching is something else,
with perhaps a 2% probability that flaky enumeration may introduce a race hazard,
and Windows confused my GPT style 600 GB WDC HDD with my MBR style 930 GB Samsung HDD,
and thought that they both had the same Disk ID (which is illegal),
so Windows stupidly knocked my MBR style HDD "offline" and then "fixed" my GPT style HDD as an MBR style and wrote a new MBR style Disk ID.
Essential partitions and folders on the Samsung HDD were "offline" and unusable.
Download and archive partitions and folders on the WDC HDD all became RAW DATA.

Windows 7 does not give me daily BSOD's like early versions of Windows,
but when it goes wrong it is more disastrous.

Sorry for the rant,
but Microsoft's KB acknowledging that SATA disk numbering is something they never got right and will never fix has really annoyed me.
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15 Aug 2013   #109
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Alan mate send us a shot of the Disk Management so we can see what you have got.
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15 Aug 2013   #110
alan10

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
 
 

One shot attached.

Originally I looked for a way to change the disk ID from an MBR number to a GPT GUID,
but nothing that was safe worked for me,
and I fear that if I force a GPT format on the drive this would destroy all data.

As you can see, Disk 0 is now showing chunks of Free Space and Unallocated.
Disk Management originally showed chunks of RAW,
but this was before I changed the Disk 0 status from "online" to "offline" as a "write protect" measure.
Windows properties STUPIDLY declare :-
The Device is working Properly,
and
Partition Style Master Boot Record (MBR)

I "write protected" the disk before I unleashed "Data Recovery" utilities on the problem.
I determined that I would NOT allow any of them to modify the contents of the disk,
but did not trust them to obey my wishes.

Over 60% of 400+ GByte of data was Macrium Partition image backup files,
and all but the most recent one had been copied to an external backup,
and although I really do not need that particular backup,
it was a matter of personal honour that I recover it.

None of the freeware solutions could detect any files on the Disk

Then I tried a $69 professional solution which rescued this 400+ GB of data.
Unfortunately the "crucial" latest backup failed validation so I tried more freeware.
I estimate that this particular 6 GB file had been saved onto very second hand free space,
and as a result the 6 GB was probably in 200 fragments,
and obviously one or more fragments was assembled in the wrong order so that MD5 hash checksums rejected as invalid.

I looked at more freeware

I am happy to say that all my 400+ GB of data was rescued AND VALIDATED perfectly with the freeware
Lazesoft Recovery Suite Free, Free Windows System Recovery, Free Data Recovery, Free Windows Password Recovery, Free Disk Clone

I intend very soon to post my testimony for Lazesoft in
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Regards
Alan


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