Startups/Boot Performance/100-all the time Critical

julio99 · 10 Jul 2013

I did a reformat a week or so ago and tweaked my startups so I could get as few as possible and still make it run right. I even took some of the needless services according to Black Viper's Windows 7 Configurations. The time for the boot is still lingering around 2 minutes, with the shortest being 86 seconds. Not only that but every boot performance in event viewer #100 is Critical when it used to mostly be Warnings with the odd critical thrown in. As we talk I had uninstalled ESET Nod 32 AV6.0 to see if that was the reason it was doing Critical and it pretty well stayed the same. I am totally at a loss as to how I can fix this without going SSD or stripping more out of the startup.

ICIT2LOL · 10 Jul 2013

Julio some system specs would be nice mate as we don't know what we are working with here.

One thing I might suggest if you haven't tried it already is Optimize Windows 7

julio99 · 10 Jul 2013

You will find the specs under system specs. I had most of the things done in the link you left for me. I'll boot and let you know if things got better. I did add a few changes from the link, but I'm still interested in knowing why all these boot performances are Critical. That screen should have had the time on it, but to make a long story short the boot got worse. It went to 137 seconds and there were no errors with it. Just a red x on the critical line 100/Boot Performance

ICIT2LOL · 11 Jul 2013

Hum mate time to run SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker
Disk Check

Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7

But try these first

http://www.superantispyware.com/

http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_free/ untick the trial

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/download from bleeping computer

http://www.memtest.org/ the last thing to try see RAM - Test with Memtest86+

julio99 · 11 Jul 2013

I have ran all of these programs except Adw cleaner and I am awaiting a reply from them before I run it on a problem I am not sure about, so better safe than sorry. Have you ran that program before? Adw Cleaner I mean. On their dl page they have this block of writing underneath the downloads about disables ff detection; disables Chrome detection; disables ie detection?? These are obviously browsers he's talking about, but is this just a warning to us about what the program does or am I supposed to change something before I start? There's not much there about that so I thought I should ask. Getting back to the other things you suggested I have ran all of those within the last month and no problems. Even ran SeaTools to check the hard drive and that also was good. What I did do yesterday ; I had a 4port USB hub plugged in with all ports full and a external burner double plugged into it. I just thought that might cause the boot to slow and it does. Took 30 seconds off the minute I unplugged it. I put it away. Down to 90 second boot time.

ICIT2LOL · 11 Jul 2013

Julio the ADW mate I have run it several times in my machines and fixes and have had no problems. I am not sure of what you mean by you are waiting for a reply from them.
If you run it will give you a report of the stuff it finds you close that screen and hit the delete. You then reboot the machine for the stuff to be fixed.

The fact that unplugging that hub means that something was hogging the resources and I am still wondering if you have tried all the tutorial tips?

The one that involves the Start up in msconfig should if you untick all except the security have made quite a difference in the boot time. I do this all the machines I have and the fixes I do.

julio99 · 11 Jul 2013

/Disable FF Detection-This option disables specific firefox detections; /Disable Chrome Detection- This option disables detections for Chrome and Chromium based browsers. That is just 2 of the 5 settings that I don't have a clue about. They are some kind of setting that you either need to enable or disable before running it. Someone from the forum wrote me back and told me when he ran it his Google Chrome preferences were all disabled. On the MSCONFIG Tab; you are talking about the STARTUP Tab in MSCONFIG right. You said security were the only ones I should have checked. How about Acronis and Synaptics; Launch Manager if I disable it half of my settings for acer don't work. I have about 9 items checked. You think I should uncheck all but Comodo and ESET? I'll give it a go and see what happens.

ICIT2LOL · 11 Jul 2013

Now the Acer settings Julio therein lie half the problems mate I have had Toshibas before I stuck SSD's in them with huge amounts of bloatware and that is what the Acer stuff is mate you don't need it. All you need is the security switched on just because Acronis is unticked doesn't mean it will not start up it just means you have to do it manually and unless you want it running for a specific reason it can stay dormant.

I also untick in Services any I don't want running such as the Bing desktop bar whatever I only download it because it pesters and I just disable it through that avenue.
Go to msconfig > Services > hide all Microsoft stuff and go through the things you don't really need to run that much and untick them. In my pic there are very few services as I am trying 8 but in my 7 machines there are more just go through them and see what you have got.

You also mention Firefox and Chrome have you got both installed I am now just wondering what you do have on the machine. Before I got into computing in earnest I used to load my machines with all sorts of "goodies" never to be used and wondered why the thing was slow.

gregrocker · 11 Jul 2013

You dont' need to edit Services in Win7, it will only cause problems like you're seeing. Win7 developers followed the Black Viper's lead and set all Services needing standby to Manual on fast triggers developed for the OS. Windows 7 is the Black Viper.

Likewise nothing needs to start with Win7 but your AV in msconfig>Startup and >Services after Hiding all MS Services. I always run a Clean Boot for best performance with no freeloaders except for Gadgets, Sync and maybe Flash updater since it's web-critical.

Other tips here for getting and keeping a perfect Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7
are same for retail installs. The factory preinstall is the worst possible install of Win7.

julio99 · 11 Jul 2013

If I decide to do a clean reinstall down the line and I have my drivers backed up to double driver should I get rid of anything related to acer if it is to be a clean re-install?