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28 Nov 2013   #11
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Where are those drivers hiding. I have disabled most stuff anyhow.




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28 Nov 2013   #12
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

I must say, that's quite list. (Or was)

I have a Renesas USB3 monitor that runs at startup. Not sure if it's really needed but I have a disk drive attached to USB3. I can run a test later and find out. I also have a front display that needs a driver at startup. It's part of the IR remote control system I have. There's other types of hardware that need startup drivers too. Most of these are User Mode drivers (Non-kernel). One I used to have was a digital scientific scale. All I'm saying is that you can't make a general statement that covers all users without seeing the list.

Items like HotKeys, IAStore, Igfxtray and Igfxpers aren't really necessary for many folks but they have very little overhead and are fast to start. The convenience is worth the half second it takes to start those. The big guzzlers are Google update and other "phone home" starters.
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01 Dec 2013   #13
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Here's the details from that day but today's is False again as it is most of the time.


Log Name: Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance
Date: 11/27/2013 6:02:10 AM
Event ID: 100
Task Category: Boot Performance Monitoring
Level: Critical
Keywords: Event Log
User: LOCAL SERVICE
Computer: suzeq-PC
Description:
Windows has started up:
Boot Duration : 109282ms
IsDegradation : true
Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2013‎-‎11‎-‎27T12:59:45.624800000Z
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance" Guid="{CFC18EC0-96B1-4EBA-961B-622CAEE05B0A}" />
<EventID>100</EventID>
<Version>2</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>4002</Task>
<Opcode>34</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000010000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2013-11-27T13:02:10.909200000Z" />
<EventRecordID>5170</EventRecordID>
<Correlation ActivityID="{02F15C40-F800-0000-C24C-E58B70EBCE01}" />
<Execution ProcessID="1556" ThreadID="2772" />
<Channel>Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational</Channel>
<Computer>suzeq-PC</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-19" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="BootTsVersion">2</Data>
<Data Name="BootStartTime">2013-11-27T12:59:45.624800000Z</Data>
<Data Name="BootEndTime">2013-11-27T13:02:08.631600000Z</Data>
<Data Name="SystemBootInstance">469</Data>
<Data Name="UserBootInstance">455</Data>
<Data Name="BootTime">109282</Data>
<Data Name="MainPathBootTime">37582</Data>
<Data Name="BootKernelInitTime">17</Data>
<Data Name="BootDriverInitTime">5761</Data>
<Data Name="BootDevicesInitTime">1852</Data>
<Data Name="BootPrefetchInitTime">15272</Data>
<Data Name="BootPrefetchBytes">378671104</Data>
<Data Name="BootAutoChkTime">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootSmssInitTime">6521</Data>
<Data Name="BootCriticalServicesInitTime">1830</Data>
<Data Name="BootUserProfileProcessingTime">2289</Data>
<Data Name="BootMachineProfileProcessingTime">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootExplorerInitTime">15423</Data>
<Data Name="BootNumStartupApps">1</Data>
<Data Name="BootPostBootTime">71700</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsRebootAfterInstall">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits">13631488</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits">1048576</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsDegradation">true</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsStepDegradation">true</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsGradualDegradation">true</Data>
<Data Name="BootImprovementDelta">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootDegradationDelta">63846</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsRootCauseIdentified">true</Data>
<Data Name="OSLoaderDuration">2083</Data>
<Data Name="BootPNPInitStartTimeMS">17</Data>
<Data Name="BootPNPInitDuration">7237</Data>
<Data Name="OtherKernelInitDuration">719</Data>
<Data Name="SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS">7331</Data>
<Data Name="SystemPNPInitDuration">376</Data>
<Data Name="SessionInitStartTimeMS">8333</Data>
<Data Name="Session0InitDuration">2983</Data>
<Data Name="Session1InitDuration">383</Data>
<Data Name="SessionInitOtherDuration">3154</Data>
<Data Name="WinLogonStartTimeMS">14854</Data>
<Data Name="OtherLogonInitActivityDuration">5014</Data>
<Data Name="UserLogonWaitDuration">1325</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>
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01 Dec 2013   #14
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I did msconfig a year or so ago.


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01 Dec 2013   #15
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

I had nothing but problems with Avast!.....nothing.but.problems.
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01 Dec 2013   #16
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

I've extracted and highlighted a few items that are unusually high. The OS load time is a little high but normal if you don't have a SSD. It looks like Prefetch is consuming a good chunk even though it's only loading 378Mb. You need to make sure your system HDD is being Defraged on a regular basis.

The next item is Windows Explorer start up. This could be caused by a library hold from Prefetch or just scattered files.
You can try this hot fix for a library hold: An update that improves the startup performance of Windows 7 and of Windows Server 2008 R2 is available

The balance of your startup time is Post Boot. It accounts for to nearly 72 seconds of your boot time. This can be caused by a large number of desktop items, user drivers or Windows Management Instrumentation (WMI) Service. To verify if it's WMI, check this Hot Fix Link. Don't do the hot fix unless you verify in your application event log that WMI is rebuilding.


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02 Dec 2013   #17
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

Also, this TechNet article is a good read and holds a lot of info on slow boots.
Root Causes for Slow Boots and Logons (sbsl) - TechNet Articles - United States (English) - TechNet Wiki
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03 Dec 2013   #18
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Thanks carwiz, I'm not ignoring you, just need some time to check some of this out, although the TechNet article is pretty much over my head. Most likely my problem is my desktop, I've never taken time to plan out a filing system & save most things to desktop. I believe I've seen reference to drivers in several of the Event Viewer logs & think I saw WMI a time or so too.
Will get on this tomorrow.
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03 Dec 2013   #19
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

USB 3.0 and SATA drivers would be Services, not start up applications. I leave them to start with w7.
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