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Windows 7: PC slowing down to a crawl...

26 Jan 2014   #11
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

See number 6 in OP post. CCleaner should be fine.


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27 Jan 2014   #12
AstaLaVista

Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by windude99 View Post
Trying a clean install sounds like a good idea. Do you use any system optimizers or registry cleaners?
Yes, yes I do but as stated before, not on a weekly or even monthly basis, at least not the registry, we use it most to clean the temp files and internet files.

Downloading UBCD right now will advise more later

EDIT... not many positive things to say about this Ultimate Boot CD, not very explicit so if you don't know what you want to run and/or are a PC guru, you will be scare to even browse it. The few apps I was able to run memtest, hdd chkdsk, it did not find any problems.

That PartitionMagic application looks like a real nice thing to use... if only they would tell you/warn you that you must update the virus definitions before you burn the CD. That and the fact that for some ungodly reason I was not able to make the mouse and keyboard work, waste about an 1 trying to make it work.

Again, do not misconstrue... I am eternally happy for all the help you guys have provided, I am just upset and disappointed because none of it worked for me

All in all, disappointment to say the least... more so because the pc still takes forever to boot and also still is having all the hissy fits it was having before
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27 Jan 2014   #13
windude99

Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1
 
 

I know CCEnhancer can cause more harm if you use that, so if you do, uninstall it. Also, try not using ccleaner and use disk cleanup to clean up junk files (if you reinstall Windows). You don't have to do that if you really like it. At least don't use the registry cleaner. I do not advise those and only use it to clean out certain applications and folders. Don't clean out the system caches (prefetch etc.)
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27 Jan 2014   #14
DustSailor

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
 
 

I said it was optional and still is, but I can take a closer look at the programs you have installed on your computer that may point out some possible conflicts.

Did you follow this tutorial: Troubleshoot Application Conflicts by Performing a Clean Startup ?
If so, was the computer faster during the clean startup?

Is the computer having problems in safe mode? Do you have conflicting antivirus programs?

I too recommend against any cleaner program, even Ccleaner. The benefit is not worth the time to fix 1 mistake, even though it is usually safe. I do use Ccleaner at times to slim down the bloat, but I make sure to be very carefull to only remove things I know are good to go. I go through and look at each and every selected item
Any optimizing program should immediately be uninstalled.

All important windows updates installed? All programs updated to the latest most stable version? Which Antivirus did you say you were using?

I'll let you get through these questions I have before I post more.
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27 Jan 2014   #15
AstaLaVista

Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
I said it was optional and still is, but I can take a closer look at the programs you have installed on your computer that may point out some possible conflicts.
how exactly do I tell you this? I;m guessing a screenie from Programs & Features?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
Did you follow this tutorial: Troubleshoot Application Conflicts by Performing a Clean Startup ?
If so, was the computer faster during the clean startup?
No I did not... I will try it tomorrow though. Like I said, the desperation or hassle is the time consumption of the restart.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
Is the computer having problems in safe mode? Do you have conflicting antivirus programs?
Well, hard to say because we can't run any of the normal programs (Office Outlook, word, etc) under safe mode but I will try something tomorrow, like the internet and such.

The issue is the restart/boot time, if we don't turn the PC off, it works slightly better than before with the cleaning we have done so far but, if we restart, it could take about 3 mins to start showing me the bios boot time and then, after you get to the windows login, it could take an additional 3 mins or more to get to the desktop.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
I too recommend against any cleaner program, even Ccleaner. The benefit is not worth the time to fix 1 mistake, even though it is usually safe. I do use Ccleaner at times to slim down the bloat, but I make sure to be very carefull to only remove things I know are good to go. I go through and look at each and every selected item
Any optimizing program should immediately be uninstalled.
I have used CCleaner for many years now with no ill effects, even on the other PCs I use it occasionally but I don't use the enhancer (don't even know what that is but I have checked and it is not an option I can see, at least not for the free use).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
All important windows updates installed? All programs updated to the latest most stable version? Which Antivirus did you say you were using?
I'll let you get through these questions I have before I post more.
All windows update except the last 4 from Jan 15th as I was trying to figure out if those were the culprit since it all started after the update was done.
Well, Office is 2010 and it does not seem to have any newer updates so I have to say yes. Mozilla FF, Chrome and IE11 are up to date as well but we usually just use FF and Chrome or IE only for a few sites like Bank sites that don't like FF all that much.
I am using the AVAST free version, only the AV and not the firewall or suite.

I am going to read up on the Ultimate Boot CD to see if I can install newer definitions of their AV as well as some sort of rootkill app as, I don't really know why but I got a funny feeling is just one of those pesky rootkill that is causing all the commotion. At the very least we can run the default AV all night to see if it catches something that the BootScan from Avast and Malware/Spybot are not seeing.
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27 Jan 2014   #16
DustSailor

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Hey mate,

A screenshot is a good way to get it, or the snipping tool.

I have windows 8, so bare with me. I believe you can also right-click the toolbar and go to task manager; from there, find 'startup':
1. If you HAVE disabled anything, try enabling it again. I found that my computer actually slowed down when I disabled something that, when enabled, sped things up
2. If you HAVEN'T disabled anything, find any program on that list that you do not feel needs to startup with the computer, and disable it. I would keep my antivirus going, and perhaps any office things, but up to your discretion.

I too run Avast! fully updated. Do that tutorial I recommended, which may be very very helpful for you in possibly locating the problem

The reason I asked how your computer functioned in safe mode was to see if it was any faster. You mentioned something about programs, so I may need clarification.
Concerning your computer, what is functioning slowly? Is it the computer itself, boot and startup times, specific programs, or a combination of the three?

Very good idea, run Avast! full scan, as you suggested. A recent test found Avast! Free performed at about 3 of 5 stars in catching malware (but still one of the best). If you are extra worried about it (since Avast doesn't catch everything), try malwarebytes free, which compliments an antivirus program with an extra scan of its own (up to you, but these scans can take a very long time).

If you use Ccleaner, I would recommend against removing temporary files, as these are used to ... speed things up. If you want to remove them, do it only in a great while.

Ccleaner shouldn't be used as a regular cleaner, but as a deep cleaner every once in a great while. Your computer in itself will take care of the rest.
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28 Jan 2014   #17
catalogue

7 Pro 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post

I too recommend against any cleaner program, even Ccleaner.
What is bad about CCleaner? And are you talking about all its functions or only certain ones? I've used its main cleaning function for maybe 7 years on 4 computers and never had any problem. Same for its registry cleanup function though I do it less often since hearing people say it could cause problems.
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28 Jan 2014   #18
DustSailor

Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by catalogue View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post

I too recommend against any cleaner program, even Ccleaner.
What is bad about CCleaner? And are you talking about all its functions or only certain ones? I've used its main cleaning function for maybe 7 years on 4 computers and never had any problem. Same for its registry cleanup function though I do it less often since hearing people say it could cause problems.
Hey mate,
Everyone has different opinions. I take the approach that if it isn't broke, don't fix. It is a great program that I too use, but you still need to use it carefully. It has the power to break your computer, but it rarely does. It HAS broke computers in the past. It is not fool-proof. If you do not know how to use it carefully, don't use it. See my other quotes:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
I too recommend against any cleaner program, even Ccleaner. The benefit is not worth the time to fix 1 mistake, even though it is usually safe. I do use Ccleaner at times to slim down the bloat, but I make sure to be very carefull to only remove things I know are good to go. I go through and look at each and every selected item
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DustSailor View Post
If you use Ccleaner, I would recommend against removing temporary files, as these are used to ... speed things up. If you want to remove them, do it only in a great while.

Ccleaner shouldn't be used as a regular cleaner, but as a deep cleaner every once in a great while. Your computer in itself will take care of the rest.
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