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26 Jan 2014   #11
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I guess it is a system. I would have organized the data in folders in a big data partition. Makes much better use of space.


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26 Jan 2014   #12
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I guess it is a system. I would have organized the data in folders in a big data partition. Makes much better use of space.
I understand.

I suspect my particular "methodology" reflects decades of evolution of usage, passing through mixed dual-OS environments (both dual-boot OS/2 as well as Windows in the earlier years, multi-boot versions of Windows for many years, before finally migrating fully to Windows 7 exclusively), many machine upgrades including ever-increasingly-larger hard drives and then additional hard drives, etc.

With multiple physical hard drives multiple unique drive letters and related folders on those drives would inevitably develop and could not be changed, and eventually this structure just became what I was used to. When much larger hard drives became available so that the total contents of multiple smaller drives could actually reside on one single larger drive, the choice now exists to just consolidate all folders into one partition on the larger or to retain multiple partitions on the one larger drive.

I chose the latter, including the retained use of the identical "drive letters" as partitions, just to keep things simple for my brain. I was so used to things the way they are and had evolved that I was perfectly content to "virtualize those individual physical drives as partitions on one larger drive", and then I wouldn't have to re-learn the roadmap of where things were. I intuitively still knew what "drive letter" everything was located on, no matter that it was now all on one physical drive.

It actually also makes it much easier for me to "sync" things up between two machines, as for example what's on H on one machine is also on H on the other machine (or at least the folders on H are mostly the same, even if the detail file contents might differ). I have network drive letters mapped starting at P on all machines, where P on the remote machine is C on that local machine, Q is D, R is E, etc. So no matter what machine I sit down at I know that C is my local C, and P is the remote machine's C. Etc., etc. And using Windows Explorer (which shows both mapped drive letter as well as local drive letter on that remote machine), it's now instantly visible that I'm "syncing" local H to remote H.

Like anything which comes with practice and years of use (e.g. touch typing at lightning speeds which is just the same and fluent as talking), the partitioning of C-J (or even K-M on larger machines with more and larger drives and special needs, like my HTPC) the use of multiple partitions actually SIMPLIFIES things for me. I'd go crazy if everything was on a single D "data" drive letter (or a very large RAID D spanning multiple volumes). I much prefer the discrete partitioning I've become completely comfortable with, no matter the machine.
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26 Jan 2014   #13
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

No problem. If it works for you there is no need for change. For an outsider it just looks a bit weird.
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27 Jan 2014   #14
craigh91

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dsperber View Post
Just noticed that your 100MB "system reserved" partition shows as "EFI system partition". Did you change something? Is that how it has always been since you installed Win7?

I don't have EFI BIOS enabled on my W530, as I do not run Win8. So my "system reserved" is an ordinary partition.

I wonder if that's why you couldn't mark it "active"? I plead ignorance on EFI, I'm afraid. I just assumed it should be "active", but maybe this works differently with EFI?? Perhaps someone else with more knowledge on this can help out.
Yes I was also wondering why its EFI as far as im aware i haven't changed anything. Do you think running the software you recommended will sort this or will i need to change it back to legacy in the bios?
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27 Jan 2014   #15
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by craigh91 View Post
Yes I was also wondering why its EFI as far as im aware i haven't changed anything. Do you think running the software you recommended will sort this or will i need to change it back to legacy in the bios?
Wait... do you have UEFI enabled in BIOS? Or not? And is/was it always this way, or did you change something recently? BIOS setting changed??

Why don't you have "legacy" set in the BIOS? Did you have it set that way, and changed it to UEFI to fool around with Windows 8, and now you're trying to use Windows 7 again??

Again, I have to plead ignorance here on UEFI and GPT disks, but I think that if UEFI is enabled that the drive needs to be formatted using GPT rather than MBR. The fact that you show an "EFI System Partition" but it's not also "active" is certainly a mystery to me, but I'm sure is totally relevant to the current issue. The suggestion certainly is that your BIOS is set to UEFI, but why that partition would not be "active" and why Windows won't let you set it to be "active" is a mystery to me.

But I believe the "boot partition" (i.e. the small "active" system reserved) for Win7 should be MBR, not GPT (which is required for Windows 8). Did you fool around with Windows 8 recently??

I'm certainly confused, and probably not being much help now. Maybe someone else can come in and help here.
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27 Jan 2014   #16
craigh91

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dsperber View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by craigh91 View Post
Yes I was also wondering why its EFI as far as im aware i haven't changed anything. Do you think running the software you recommended will sort this or will i need to change it back to legacy in the bios?
Wait... do you have UEFI enabled in BIOS? Or not? And is/was it always this way, or did you change something recently? BIOS setting changed??

Why don't you have "legacy" set in the BIOS? Did you have it set that way, and changed it to UEFI to fool around with Windows 8, and now you're trying to use Windows 7 again??

Again, I have to plead ignorance here on UEFI and GPT disks, but I think that if UEFI is enabled that the drive needs to be formatted using GPT rather than MBR. The fact that you show an "EFI System Partition" but it's not also "active" is certainly a mystery to me, but I'm sure is totally relevant to the current issue. The suggestion certainly is that your BIOS is set to UEFI, but why that partition would not be "active" and why Windows won't let you set it to be "active" is a mystery to me.

But I believe the "boot partition" (i.e. the small "active" system reserved) for Win7 should be MBR, not GPT (which is required for Windows 8). Did you fool around with Windows 8 recently??

I'm certainly confused, and probably not being much help now. Maybe someone else can come in and help here.
It is set to use both in my bios i'll screenshot it when i get home from work. I havent changed anything in bios really apart from messing with the boot order so it is also a mystery to me. I have tried right clicking both to change to active but it is grayed out for both which i dont understand. I have been messing around doing clean installs maybe something has gone wrong when i was doing this
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