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Windows 7: Windows 7 appears twice on the boot menu; resets updates

17 Mar 2014   #11
gregrocker

 

Yes, thanks David. Corrected.

We also know that C is Win7 because it holds the Boot flag showing the presently booted OS.


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14 Apr 2014   #12
tsdcs

Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium OEM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
As David said the System Reserved partition is meant to boot Win7 but for some reason your boot files have been moved to C, which we know is now booting Win7 by the presence of the System flag. This is okay but I think I would move the boot partition back to System Reserved to see if it resolves the ghost menu listing.

To do this Create an Image Backup , Mark System Reserved Partition Active, reboot to see if Win7 will start outright. If not then boot into the Win7 installation media or System Repair Disk to run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times no matter what it reports until Win7 starts and System Reserved again and correctly holds the System flag. In the rare case where System Reserved is corrupted and cannot be repaired to start Win7, just move the Active flag back to C using Partition - Mark as Active (Method Two).

You can then remove the System Reserved drive letter, ignoring the warning message: Drive Letter - Add, Change, or Remove in Windows 7 - Windows 7 Forums

You also have two stray small partitions without drive letters which are empty and a larger block of Logical Free Space all of which I would delete to create a new partition in the space, or simply extend C to the right to take up the space. Note that the Free Space must also be deleted using right-click>Delete Partition first to finally be rid of it's Logical container.
Partition or Volume - Delete
Partition or Volume - Create New
Partition or Volume - Extend
Hello there- I apologize for my absence.

I marked the System Reserved partition as active, and upon restart, didn't have any problems getting into Windows- same as always. After restarting, I removed the drive letter, as recommended.

However, I still see two entries for Windows 7 on my boot menu, as before- Would running a Startup Repair still be advisable?

Or should I delete the boot files from the C:\ drive? If so, which files? Would be the same ones that were in the E:\ drive?


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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\System32>bcdedit

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier              {bootmgr}
device                  partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
description             Windows Boot Manager
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {globalsettings}
default                 {default}
resumeobject            {ee0819e5-248a-11e1-bafc-b762884a59b8}
displayorder            {default}
toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
timeout                 15

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier              {default}
device                  partition=C:
path                    \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description             Windows 7
locale                  en-US
inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence        {ee0819e7-248a-11e1-bafc-b762884a59b8}
recoveryenabled         Yes
testsigning             No
osdevice                partition=C:
systemroot              \Windows
resumeobject            {ee0819e5-248a-11e1-bafc-b762884a59b8}
nx                      OptIn
bootlog                 No

C:\Windows\System32>

edit: Hmmm...after restarting again, System Reserved partition is E:\ again...
edit2: shows up as E:\ in the first Windows 7 option in the boot menu (in Windows Explorer, bcdedit), but not if I boot using the second Windows 7 option listed in the boot menu.

No drive letter associated in Disk Management in both versions, and drive is marked as active in both versions.

I tried to do a boot repair with the Windows 7 disc, but I didn't proceed because the drive letters were different. It seems to want to repair C:\, which it lists as being D:\, IIRC.
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14 Apr 2014   #13
gregrocker

 

What is on the other unlettered partitions strewn across the hard drive, and why are they there and unlettered? Did you have a Linux install at one point? I would back up their data and delete all of them, including the Logical partition Free Space which will require deleting again in order to make it Unallocated. Then create a data partition in the Unallocated space remaining, or extend C into it.

Remove the System Reserved drive letter, boot into System Recovery Options on disk to run Startup Repair a few times to see if it finds anything to repair.

If Dual Boot menu remains, install EasyBCD Download - NeoSmart Technologies (no name or email required) to delete the other entry on Edit OS Menu tab.

Post back a Disk Mgmt screenshot.
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14 Apr 2014   #14
tsdcs

Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium OEM
 
 

Thanks for the quick reply!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
What is on the other unlettered partitions strewn across the hard drive, and why are they there and unlettered? Did you have a Linux install at one point? I would back up their data and delete all of them, including the Logical partition Free Space which will require deleting again in order to make it Unallocated. Then create a data partition in the Unallocated space remaining, or extend C into it.
Yes, I have Linux Mint installed. As for the other unnamed partition, it has somehow resolved itself- it may have been the changing of the boot partition, or may have been something else. Either way, it's now blanks space, with the only remaining partitions being System/C drive/Linux Mint. See attached picture.

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Remove the System Reserved drive letter, boot into System Recovery Options on disk to run Startup Repair a few times to see if it finds anything to repair.
Ran Startup Repair 3 times as advised, though only the first time did anything- afterward I just got messages saying that Windows couldn't detect any startup errors. System drive letter has already been removed.

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If Dual Boot menu remains, install EasyBCD Download - NeoSmart Technologies (no name or email required) to delete the other entry on Edit OS Menu tab.

Post back a Disk Mgmt screenshot.
EasyBCD just shows one OS- the Windows 7 booting from the System Reserved partition. So I'll have to wade into the Linux Mint install to remove one of the Windows 7 options from the boot menu, because it's picking up both the boot options still on C:\ as well as the ones on the System Reserved partition.


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14 Apr 2014   #15
gregrocker

 

The System flag is still on C which means it is still booting Win7. I thought it had moved to System Reserved.

If System will not move to System Reserved as it was originally set up, after running 3 Startup Repairs with only the System Resrved partition marked Active, then the only other way to force it is to convert C to Logical so it cannot boot Win7 and then run the 3 Repairs with System Reserved marked Active. How to set partition as Primary or Logical with Partition Wizard . But due to possibility of failure I would not do this unless you are wanting to experiment and first back up a System image and your files.

So if you cannot move the System Flag to System Reserved so that it is booting Win7 again, I would Mark C Partition Active, Test if it still boots. Then you can delete System Reserved in Disk Mgmt.

Back up a System Image of C and your files first.

Your Linux install may have corrupted the Win7 bootloader on System Reserved. For future reference the best way to add Linux to Win7 Dual Boot is given here: Where to install ubuntu in my system?
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14 Apr 2014   #16
tsdcs

Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium OEM
 
 

Thanks for your help. The Windows Update issue seems to be resolved.

I made C:\ active and restarted my PC- this upset my boot order and my HDD wasn't showing up in BIOS menu, but I was able to reset that (shut off PC, unplug HDD from motherboard, plug back in, power on). Recreated the System Reserved partition and did a couple of Startup Repairs. Now I get some sort of error message about a missing file whenever I try to boot from the first Windows 7 option listed in the boot menu, but I don't take that to be bad news.

I ended up messing with the boot menu and setting the 2nd Windows 7 option listed to being the default (the one pulling from the System Reserved partition). Hindsight being 20/20, I should have just done this from the outset- but if you want to learn about something you have to put some time in...


Anyway, thanks to you all, again, especially gregrocker.
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14 Apr 2014   #17
gregrocker

 

Please post back another screenshot of Disk Management - Post a Screen Capture Image

I've never seen a case where the System REserved partition is deemed its own OS for Dual Booting with the OS on C. Something else must have been at play, likely with the Linux partition - how was it dual booted?
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24 Apr 2014   #18
tsdcs

Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium OEM
 
 

Code:
System Reserved
Healthy (Active, Primary Parition)

C: 
Healthy (System, Boot, Page File Crash Dump, Primary Partition)

*8.3gb
Healthy (Primary Parition)

*9.32gb
Healthy (Primary Parition)

*2.07
Healthy (Primary Parition)

74.55bg
Unallocated
*From Linux Mint reinstall; untitled partitions are data/home/swap partitions for Linux Mint 16.


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24 Apr 2014   #19
gregrocker

 

C is still booting itself as signified by the System flag. It should also be marked Active. Mark Partition Active

The 100mb System Reserved is not being used. Since you are only allowed 4 Primary partitions there is something wrong with your configuration that it allows you 5. So I'd delete System Reserved to be safe.

Delete the stray OS listing if it shows up in EasyBCD, on the Edit OS Menu tab.

You can distribute that 75gb unallocated space to any of the partitions using How to extend partition easily with Partition Wizard - video help.

To create a new partition out of it you'll need to first convert the adjacent partition to Logical since you can have 3 Primary and unlimited Logical. How to set partition as Primary or Logical with Partition Wizard
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