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Windows 7: [Help] I have a 45 Second Boot Time with a SSD

07 Apr 2014   #1
ZeroManArmy

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
[Help] I have a 45 Second Boot Time with a SSD

Hello Seven Forums!

Hoping you guys can help me out with this super mysterious boot issue I am having. I never really put any thought into why my PC takes roughly 40-50 seconds to boot until a couple of days ago. M computer specs are on my Sever Forums profile.

So I have been researching and researching on how to get a faster boot time. I have some images below showing/describing what I have done and how it is setup. First off, I have followed all the steps at The SSD Review, and it didn't seem to help out much. I want to note as well, I have followed the guide here to change were my Users folder is located so that it is not on my SSD.

-- Begin Troubleshooting --
The same SSD boots in about 8-10 seconds on a laptop with a clean install of Windows.

My Startup items as of today: -startup.png

My installed drives: -installed_drives.png

I enabled verbose booting and saw that it got stuck here: -verbose_boot.jpg
Now normally, when verbose is off, windows will hang up here for about 30 seconds: Name:  Windows_Logo.jpg
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After forcing Windows to take the AHCI driver in the device manager, it shows this: -device_manager.png
Gigabyte "has" ACHI drivers located here, but they change it from the AHCI drivers to the AMD SATA Controller drivers.
My BIOS also shows that I have AHCI enabled on my machine: -bios_ahci_enabled.png
I also have the regkey for AHCI set to 0 to enable it: -regedit.png

After finally getting AHCI enabled on my PC, I performed a benchmark to see if there was a difference. New: Name:  CrystalDiskMark_AHCI_Drivers.png
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Size:  59.2 KB Old: Name:  CrystalDiskMark_SATA_Drivers.png
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Size:  62.4 KB

Here are my BootRacer screenshots.
Clean Install on SSD: -bootracer_new_install.png

My current install: -bootracer_normal.png
-- End Troubleshooting --




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07 Apr 2014   #2
fireberd

Windows 7/10 64 bit
 
 

I don't have an answer except to look at what is loading at boot up. Some startup application could be causing the extra time.

BTW, here is how to post screen shots on the forum. Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums
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07 Apr 2014   #3
GregH

Windows 7 - x64 Professional
 
 

I understand that multiple other drives in your system can slow boot times down. Are you excluding the time from boot up until the BIOS hands over to the OS? Also, how full is your SSD?
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07 Apr 2014   #4
madcratebuilder

Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
 
 

Quote:
[Help] I have a 45 Second Boot Time with a SSD
How much of this time is POST/BOIS and how much is "Starting windows" Figure 10 seconds for POST/BOIS, that gives you 35 sec for the OS, not unusual depending on how much is in startup and services. Look at C:\Windows\System32\msconfig.exe.
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07 Apr 2014   #5
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

1. Check your alignment:

SSD Alignment

2. See what you real boot time is in Event 100 - drill down this sequence:

Eventvwr
Applications and Service Logs
Microsoft
Windows
Diagnostics - performance
Operational
Event ID 100
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07 Apr 2014   #6
crawfish

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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07 Apr 2014   #7
ZeroManArmy

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fireberd View Post
I don't have an answer except to look at what is loading at boot up. Some startup application could be causing the extra time.

BTW, here is how to post screen shots on the forum. Screenshots and Files - Upload and Post in Seven Forums
Startup is clean, as I do monthly maintenance to remove things that start up.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GregH View Post
I understand that multiple other drives in your system can slow boot times down. Are you excluding the time from boot up until the BIOS hands over to the OS? Also, how full is your SSD?
I am excluding the BIOS POST in my time. My SSD is 128GB and only is using 28.4GB.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madcratebuilder View Post
Quote:
[Help] I have a 45 Second Boot Time with a SSD
How much of this time is POST/BOIS and how much is "Starting windows" Figure 10 seconds for POST/BOIS, that gives you 35 sec for the OS, not unusual depending on how much is in startup and services. Look at C:\Windows\System32\msconfig.exe.
The BIOS POST is not entered in the time. Once the BIOS passes onto the SSD for Windows boot, that is when I start counting.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
1. Check your alignment:

SSD Alignment

2. See what you real boot time is in Event 100 - drill down this sequence:

Eventvwr
Applications and Service Logs
Microsoft
Windows
Diagnostics - performance
Operational
Event ID 100
I'd like to do the alignment, but I don't want to format my machine. Looking at the Event Viewer, anywhere from 80 to 100 seconds.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by crawfish View Post
I couldn't seem to find anything using this, I did just skim it though.


Also, the same SSD boots in about 8-10 seconds on a laptop with a clean install of Windows.
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07 Apr 2014   #8
ZeroManArmy

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Just updated the post with images embedded.
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07 Apr 2014   #9
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

If your SSD is ill aligned, you can align it without reformatting. You should, however, make an image first - one never knows.

Here is how to do it:

Align All Partitions ? MiniTool Partition Wizard Video help.

It is best to use the bootable CD of that program - last box on the webpage gives you the iso.
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08 Apr 2014   #10
GregH

Windows 7 - x64 Professional
 
 

"Also, the same SSD boots in about 8-10 seconds on a laptop with a clean install of Windows."

This would point to something other than the SSD causing the slow boot times - something peculiar to your PC hardware/software. You have disabled unnecessary software start ups so you might have some driver or hardware in your PC that is 'waking up' and reporting to the OS slower than normal. A network or sound card perhaps? I'm sure your drivers are all good and that Device Manager is not reporting any problems. If you do have another HDD in your system for data, try unplugging that and comparing boot times as a start. I have a 1.5 TB HDD drive in my system and if I unplug that, boot times are marginally but noticeably faster, although I have never actually timed it accurately with software. Make sure you are using your MB manufacturers drivers for onboard equipment and SATA controllers etc, not Windows own ones.

Although not a hard rule, smaller capacity SSD's such as your usually offer faster boot times on average than larger capacity SSD's and a 8 - 10 second boot would be more reasonable on a clean install.

Could it be the AHCI issue you seem to have had - you mention "forcing" Windows to accept AHCI. Maybe a serious conflict going on there. You should have AHCI set up in the BIOS (usually it is set to this by default) before you start installing the OS.
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