Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: SSDs, HDDs and RAMdrives

23 Apr 2014   #1
BJB

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 
SSDs, HDDs and RAMdrives

Bit late joining the SSD club but I finally have one, 120GB, teamed up with a fast 1TB HDD, 8GB RAM and an i5. Win 7 performance is impressive, but thinking about the longer term is there much to be gained by moving the browser caches and Win temp files off of the SSD? Perhaps the paging file too if that's possible? And if so, might it be possible to move them to a RAM drive rather than to the HDD? My usual pattern of use is perfectly happy running in 4GB RAM so would this be an effective way to use the other 4GB? And if any of this is possible are there any pitfalls in going down this road?

My old Win 7 is still running fine so there is no pressure at all to rush the new setup. I'm happy to sit and gather the benefit of your experiences with this sort of thing.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
23 Apr 2014   #2
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

I wouldn't use a RAMDisk at all. They were useful with DOS and other ancient operating systems but they are of little use in a modern OS. Modern operating systems have a sophisticated caching system that provides most of the benefits of a RAMDisk with fewer problems. A 64 bit OS will use 8 GB RAM, and do a better job than any messing with a RAMDisk. A RAMDisk will improve some specific aspects of performance but overall it will cost you.

Putting the pagefile on a RAMDisk is one of the worst uses of a RAMDisk anyone has ever thought of.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 Apr 2014   #3
madcratebuilder

Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
 
 

With your equipment you don't need to mess with a ramdrive. Moving W7 files to the HDD does save space on the ssd. There are several tutorials here that walk you thru the process.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

24 Apr 2014   #4
BJB

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

OK, get the message about the RAMdrive. I've moved all my own stuff to the HDD so don't expect the SSD to even reach 50% used, but what about the browser caches and Win temp files? Is it no longer necessary or even worthwhile to make any effort to reduce unnecessary writes to the SSD?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 Apr 2014   #5
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BJB View Post
OK, get the message about the RAMdrive. I've moved all my own stuff to the HDD so don't expect the SSD to even reach 50% used, but what about the browser caches and Win temp files? Is it no longer necessary or even worthwhile to make any effort to reduce unnecessary writes to the SSD?
I moved my browser caches from SSD to HDD, but have been reliably advised that it was probably pointless given that the "wearing out the SSD with unnecessary writes" thing has been grossly exaggerated, at least for recent generation SSDs and the typical use case. I never moved the cache back to the SSD, but I have no reason to believe that would be inadvisable.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 Apr 2014   #6
crawfish

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BJB View Post
OK, get the message about the RAMdrive. I've moved all my own stuff to the HDD so don't expect the SSD to even reach 50% used, but what about the browser caches and Win temp files? Is it no longer necessary or even worthwhile to make any effort to reduce unnecessary writes to the SSD?
I would not move them. You can monitor your writes with a tool like CrystalDiskInfo, but browser cache isn't going to be a problem, nor are temp files unless you're doing something fairly unusual on a very regular basis.

The only thing I do as standard to reduce writes is to disable Hybrid Sleep on my main PC, which is hooked up to an APC UPS that will wake it from sleep to hibernate in the event of a prolonged outage. I also make sure my WMC Recorded TV drive is a regular hard drive, which one would tend to do for space reasons anyway.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 Apr 2014   #7
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Leave your Page File on the SSD (OS drive) otherwise you'd negate some of the benefits of SSD speed. I also move all Temp files to a HDD along with Users and ProgramData. I run CCleaner a lot more than most people so it only hits the HDD.

I agree too on the RAM disk, it would show good benchmark number but no real world benefit. If you have a Samsung 840EVO or Pro you can enable Rapid Mode, which help a little bit.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 Apr 2014   #8
BJB

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

OK, thanks. I'll probably move them anyway as it can only be helpful in the long run, if only marginally. I've had my medion md 8818 for over 7 years now and only hope this box lasts and performs as well as that one has done.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 Apr 2014   #9
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

You seem savvy, but these may give some additional insight.

User Folders - Change Default Location

I have used the following method a few times now:

User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 Apr 2014   #10
BJB

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
You seem savvy, but these may give some additional insight.

User Folders - Change Default Location

I have used the following method a few times now:

User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation
I've always moved my user folders to a separate data partition as this greatly simplifies and speeds up system imaging and restore. However after a recent incident on the Medion in which a corrupt flash drive somehow caused loss of my data partitions, and this in turn caused both Acronis and Reflect to fail to restore a bootable system partition, I'm inclined to leave my user profile on the SSD and simply include my data folders, which are located on the HDD, in the libraries on the SSD.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 SSDs, HDDs and RAMdrives




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
What components make enterprise HDDs more reliable than consumer HDDs?
Been googling around for info and haven't been able to pinpoint exactly what makes a enterprise drive more reliable than consumer drives. I understand consumer demand for bigger drives at lower cost so manufacturers have to cut corners somewhere along the line. What/Where exactly are they...
Hardware & Devices
SSDs and HDDs and defrag.
OK. My SSD died, so I had to swap in a standard HDD while waiting for the new drive to arrive. I did a new install of the OS, and set up everything as if I had the SSD in the system. I have three HDDs in the machine, and only one will be swapped to SSD in the near future, so I did not disable...
Performance & Maintenance
Choose between 2 new SSDs.
I just bought a new ultrabook...an HP Envy 4t. I'm looking for a thin 7mm SSD to put in it, and I've narrowed my choices down to 2. I understand one comes with a data transfer kit and one doesn't, and there's a slight difference in capacity. That being said, and "stated drive performance...
Hardware & Devices
Think you know SSDs? Think again.
Read the entire (long!) article over at AnandTech: The SSD Anthology: Understanding SSDs and New Drives from OCZ Also, per fakeasdf in the post http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/6203-think-you-know-ssds-think-again-5.html#post265077 be sure to read the followup. Here is a snippet: ...
Hardware & Devices
The Truth About SSDs
The following are my views based on my own research. Sensible comments and discussion are welcomed. The truth about SSDs Pros •Increased start up speed •Increased application/game launching •File fragmentation is negligible •Consistent read rates •Silent
Hardware & Devices
SSDs
SSD's intrigue the hell out of me. i just read this article The SSD Anthology: Understanding SSDs and New Drives from OCZ - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News and now im not so sure I want to get one. i would use it for my OS and programs only, i already have a 1TB drive for...
Hardware & Devices


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:10.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App