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Windows 7: Windows Disk Defragmenter vs defragmentation softwares

25 Jun 2014   #1
Vexxum

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Windows Disk Defragmenter vs defragmentation softwares

Should i use window tool or any other software (if so please suggest both free and paid)

And after how long should we do defragmentation.
Thanks


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25 Jun 2014   #2
richc46

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Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

I use and suggest that you try Ausglogics. It is one of the best defraggers. It has an analyze feature that shows how much needs to be defragged. It is suggested to wait until it reaches about 10%
http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag/
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25 Jun 2014   #3
ignatzatsonic

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

You're not likely to notice any difference between them. You rarely hear of anybody complaining about one of them like you hear about anti-virus applications.

Windows built-in defragger rarely lets my hard drives get beyond 3% fragmented. They usually show zero percent.

Before defragging became automated, I occasionally would let my drives get to 20% fragmentation and never noticed any deterioration in performance.

Use whatever best relieves your anxiety and worry, assuming you understand it and can configure it properly.
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25 Jun 2014   #4
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Windows defrager does a fine job and it is a weekly sheducled task to keep your drive(s) well organized. There really isn't a need for manual defragmentation or 3rd party utilities (although I use Piriform Defaggler when my system "seems" sluggish).

The forums has many discussion s on this subject:
Windows 7 Forums: Search Results for defrag

One of the more interesting is the discussion on Restore Points:
Defragmenter programs can delete System Restore Points

Happy reading
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25 Jun 2014   #5
richc46

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There have been many good suggestions given. Decide on the method that is best for you. Use that method consistently, do not use a software to defrag today and another tomorrow. It is best use defrag software consistently and not constantly switch. They all use slightly different methods to defrag.
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25 Jun 2014   #6
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by richc46 View Post
There have been many good suggestions given. Decide on the method that is best for you. Use that method consistently, do not use a software to defrag today and another tomorrow. It is best use defrag software consistently and not constantly switch. They all use slightly different methods to defrag.
Ain't that the truth! One will change the other's schema and a vicious circle ensues.
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25 Jun 2014   #7
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I use the built in Windows 7 defragger. It was made by Diskeeper for Microsoft.
Their have been post on this forum where a 3rd party defrag disabled Restore Points on some systems.
No I'm not going to hunt down the threads.
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16 Sep 2014   #8
mt12345

Linux x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
Windows defrager does a fine job and it is a weekly sheducled task to keep your drive(s) well organized. There really isn't a need for manual defragmentation or 3rd party utilities (although I use Piriform Defaggler when my system "seems" sluggish).
No need for 3rd party utilities but you use one from time to time? No offence, I just dont understand.
Windows defragler is scheduled to run 1AM every week. Many people switch off their machines when they go to bed, lets say at midnight. They may not even know what (de)fragmentation is.
'Oh my computer is so slow, I need to reinstall the system'
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18 Sep 2014   #9
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mt12345 View Post
No need for 3rd party utilities but you use one from time to time? No offence, I just dont understand.

Windows defragler is scheduled to run 1AM every week. Many people switch off their machines when they go to bed, lets say at midnight. They may not even know what (de)fragmentation is.
'Oh my computer is so slow, I need to reinstall the system'
I use Piriform Defraggler because it is a one pass defrag. MS defrag is multi-pass and might require multiple runs.

The 'no need statement' basically says that MS defrag does it's job, albeit the minimum. Most, if not all utilities use the MS defrag API, so it's only a matter of implementation.

There's always been great debate about the value of defrag (to defrag or not to defrag ... that is the question ..). I have slow drives 5400 RPM and periodic full defrag (multiple MS defrag or a single Piriform Defraggler) does improve my disk performance, based on read write throughput. Faster drives (7200 RPM)show less performance improvement.

If my disk gets above 5% defrag, I run Piriform Defraggler and forget about it until I notice or perceive a slow down. Defrag is just one place I look - what's running in the background is the first place (did something get into startup???)

You can configure MS defrag to run when you want - it doesn't consume too many resources, but you want to run in when there is little disk activity.
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18 Sep 2014   #10
richc46

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I would like to add to the excellent answer above. Many at this Forum agree that Defragller is one of the best. It is known by most that any defragger will do the job, but best too use the same one for each defrag. Shut off MS defrag if using any others.
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