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Windows 7: sandboxie and ramdisk for extra security and performance?

25 Jun 2014   #1
WindowsOP

Windows Ultimate x64
 
 
sandboxie and ramdisk for extra security and performance?

Hi,

I am running 6GB of RAM ( 4gb+2gb) on my laptop not shown in my system specs profile.

Can I setup a ramdisk of 2GB and then install sandboxie on ramdisk. then use firefox under sandboxie. Is this possible to setup on my Laptop?

or I should just setup a ramdisk for 512mb, install sandboxie on my hdd/sdd and run firefox under sandboxie and Install for Browser Cache File Storage for firefox to sandboxie using this link - RAM Disk - Install for Browser Cache File Storage


I want to utilize ramdisk for the performance and sandboxie for the extra security (everything gets deleted after done using computer)

but since ramdisk auto deletes everything, how do I keep sandboxie from not being deleted?


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25 Jun 2014   #2
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

As a general rule a RAMDisk is an inefficient use of memory. Back in the days of DOS a RAMDisk was a useful thing but modern operating systems have a sophisticated caching system that provides most of the benefits with fewer problems.

How much RAM do you have? If it is really only 3 GB as shown in your profile a RAMDisk large enough to be useful would require more RAM than you can spare. A 2 GB RAMDisk would severely impair performance.
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25 Jun 2014   #3
WindowsOP

Windows Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LMiller7 View Post
As a general rule a RAMDisk is an inefficient use of memory. Back in the days of DOS a RAMDisk was a useful thing but modern operating systems have a sophisticated caching system that provides most of the benefits with fewer problems.

How much RAM do you have? If it is really only 3 GB as shown in your profile a RAMDisk large enough to be useful would require more RAM than you can spare. A 2 GB RAMDisk would severely impair performance.
I have a total of 6GB or ram, 2GB + 4GB sticks. That's a different laptop but I apologize for not mentioning that in my post. I've never ever heard anyone mention "ramdisk" but I feel so late. I juts got a new laptop running with a 256gb ssd ( not updated in my profile yet). Along with the guide posted on sevenforums, I'm also considering using Ram Disk To Reduce Writes On Solid State Drives as well.

I remember using sandboxie and it was really slow when using firefox/chrome. That's why the idea of having a ramdisk of 2gb and installing sandboxie, running firefox would be possible and if thats a good idea?

http://www.ghacks.net/2010/06/10/use...-state-drives/
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25 Jun 2014   #4
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

RamDisk. It's better to just run FF under Sandboxie both installed on your windows partition and move the FF cache to Ramdisk.

I use a RamDisk for performance rather than privacy reasons and the data on the RamDisk is saved on each shut down rather then wiped. It's possible to set up a non persistent RamDisk though.

If you use Cyberfox instead of Firefox there's a Clear RAM Cache option available. You can also over-ride and clear cache via Options> Advanced> Network. Also just type about:cache into the address bar to view entries.

If your aim is privacy and prevention of recovery of your cache date then use RamDisk by all means. But if you just want faster browsing the using RamDisk for that purpose alone is overkill.
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25 Jun 2014   #5
WindowsOP

Windows Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
RamDisk. It's better to just run FF under Sandboxie both installed on your windows partition and move the FF cache to Ramdisk.

I use a RamDisk for performance rather than privacy reasons and the data on the RamDisk is saved on each shut down rather then wiped. It's possible to set up a non persistent RamDisk though.

If you use Cyberfox instead of Firefox there's a Clear RAM Cache option available. You can also over-ride and clear cache via Options> Advanced> Network. Also just type about:cache into the address bar to view entries.

If your aim is privacy and prevention of recovery of your cache date then use RamDisk by all means. But if you just want faster browsing the using RamDisk for that purpose alone is overkill.
How do you have RamDisk saved on each shut down rather than being wiped?

Buy a premium/paid version of the software version?
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26 Jun 2014   #6
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
Save Ramdisk

Hi,

I don't use any paid for Ramdisk solution. Here's what I currently use (free):

SoftPerfect RAM Disk : high-performance RAM Disk for Windows

Manual: SoftPerfect RAM Disk - Online user manual, Introduction - see "Getting started" section for options on wiping or making persistent.

Previously I created my own Ramdisks using the imdisk driver and the instructions here:

Using ImDisk to set up RAM disk(s) in Windows with no limit on disk size

Be warned that the tutorial on Guru3D does leave out some important steps. A reboot is required once the Ramdisk has been set up then it needs to be formatted.

Performance: I didn't see any real performance gains when moving browser caches to Ramdisk. I do see real gains when opening files or performing data intensive tasks. These gains were not seen until prefetch EDIT: (meant to say superfetch) was disabled as essentially a Ramdisk does the same job as prefetch but anything up to 50 times faster.

Personal preference: I use a 1GB Ramdisk with 4Gb installed RAM. That means that 1GB of system RAM is always allocated for Ramdisk usage. Usage has never got anywhere near that 1Gb maximum so if you are only interested in performance then I wouldn't bother with anything larger.

As for installing applications - it's best to install them on Windows and move temp files like this:

sandboxie and ramdisk for extra security and performance?-environment-variables.jpg

I only run portable apps directly from Ramdisk. Currently a media player, PrivaZer (privacy cleaning app), and Runscanner (Startup & Hijack Analyzer). They run much faster form a Ramdisk. Here's a screenshot of mine:

sandboxie and ramdisk for extra security and performance?-virtual-ram-v_-.jpg

Messing about with Ramdisks left me with a non-booting machine the first few times I attempted to set one up. It was a learning process. Suggest making a system image backup before going ahead so that you can get things back to the way they were in the event of problems.


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26 Jun 2014   #7
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

I use FF 27.0 Portable. If the cache is set to 0 it will use a little less than 2 GB Ram on my 4 GB Laptop. The only thing slow is loading off a busy HD, With SSD you shouldn't have that issue. I don't know how Sandboxie will fit in. I stopped using SB a couple of years ago.
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26 Jun 2014   #8
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
FF cache set to zero

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
I use FF 27.0 Portable. If the cache is set to 0 it will use a little less than 2 GB Ram on my 4 GB Laptop. The only thing slow is loading off a busy HD, With SSD you shouldn't have that issue. I don't know how Sandboxie will fit in. I stopped using SB a couple of years ago.
Ditto.

sandboxie and ramdisk for extra security and performance?-cyberfox-options.jpg


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26 Jun 2014   #9
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Sandboxie gives you high security but is very cumbersome to use. I prefer using a Linux virtual system for internet operation. It is a much more flexible approach and just as safe. Here is how.

A RAMdisk does not really yield anything - especially not with such a small RAM of only 6GB.
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26 Jun 2014   #10
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

I just set up a few VMs using VMWare Player in the last few weeks. For guest OS it's really intuitive. About the only thing "extra" is installing the tools for each OS to get transparent clipboard and file drag and drop between host and guest. It couldn't be much easier. Very nice free software.
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