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Windows 7: Suddenly long boot times

13 Jul 2014   #1
var14ble

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 
Suddenly long boot times

I've been experiencing crazy long boot times recently. I've always had this problem to a certain extent, but it's getting way worse now. When I first got this and until a couple weeks ago, it had been rising from about 60-70 seconds to a minute and a half and up to two. Suddenly, today it skyrocketed to 270 seconds - almost 5 minutes. I rebooted 3 times and all of them took upwards of 200 seconds. I have no idea what is going on, as the only event log I have without code 100 is for a program that took 4 extra seconds to start. I'm leaving the details below, and I can see that prefetch, explorer, and the postboot times seem to be the culprits, but I'm not sure how to deal with that, especially since my previous 2 reboots yielded results different to both this one and each-other. I have a quad-core AMD FX-4100 running at 4.1 GHz and 8 gigs of ram, so I don't think it's a hardware issue. I do have an HDD so I expect slower boot times than brand-new SSDs, but this is ridiculous. I do have quite a bit of files in it, but it's relatively defragmented and I have trouble believing that's the reason for it taking almost 5 minutes to boot. Any help would be greatly appreciated, and I'd like to avoid formatting as much as possible, as it would take forever to back up all my files.

 
  • BootTsVersion: 2
  • BootStartTime: 2014-07-13T22:20:03.780800500Z
  • BootEndTime: 2014-07-13T22:25:00.752203700Z
  • SystemBootInstance: 696
  • UserBootInstance: 672
  • BootTime: 251999
  • MainPathBootTime: 94899
  • BootKernelInitTime: 35
  • BootDriverInitTime: 316
  • BootDevicesInitTime: 4996
  • BootPrefetchInitTime: 44268
  • BootPrefetchBytes: 313401344
  • BootAutoChkTime: 0
  • BootSmssInitTime: 7008
  • BootCriticalServicesInitTime: 3500
  • BootUserProfileProcessingTime: 2892
  • BootMachineProfileProcessingTime: 0
  • BootExplorerInitTime: 62725
  • BootNumStartupApps: 12
  • BootPostBootTime: 157100
  • BootIsRebootAfterInstall: false
  • BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits: 0
  • BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits: 0
  • BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits: 0
  • BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits: 0
  • BootIsDegradation: false
  • BootIsStepDegradation: false
  • BootIsGradualDegradation: false
  • BootImprovementDelta: 0
  • BootDegradationDelta: 0
  • BootIsRootCauseIdentified: false
  • OSLoaderDuration: 3465
  • BootPNPInitStartTimeMS: 35
  • BootPNPInitDuration: 5029
  • OtherKernelInitDuration: 3980
  • SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS: 8970
  • SystemPNPInitDuration: 283
  • SessionInitStartTimeMS: 9294
  • Session0InitDuration: 655
  • Session1InitDuration: 160
  • SessionInitOtherDuration: 6192
  • WinLogonStartTimeMS: 16302
  • OtherLogonInitActivityDuration: 12978
  • UserLogonWaitDuration: 3900



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14 Jul 2014   #2
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hello and welcome var14ble mate there are several things you can do for starters try the following


http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1538-sfc-scannow-command-system-file-checker.html

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/433-disk-check.html < use the /f option in Option 2 ifnecessary

http://www.superantispyware.com/

http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_free/

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/

download from bleeping computer delete any rubbishthese find.

Then there is this
Optimize Windows 7 > point 8 is a good place to begin with
but try the other stuff first mate.
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14 Jul 2014   #3
var14ble

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Hello and thank you! I probably should've mentioned it in my post, but I've tried most of the things you suggested. The only two links in there that I wasn't aware of were adwcleaner and superantispyware. I highly doubt I have malware and/or spyware, as I've run malwarebytes in the past and I don't really visit sketchy websites. I ran almost everything again just for good measure, though. The only thing I haven't tried so far is disk check because a) it is going to take forever and b) I've also run it in the past and it didn't yield any noticeable speedup.

I've noticed that in almost all of my reboots my postboot time is around 2 minutes, my mainpath boot time can range from 1-2 minutes, and my explorer init time can be anywhere between 20 seconds and 1 minute. Those seem to be the biggest time hogs, but I'm not sure what that means in terms of how to fix it.

Another thing I noticed, after doing some digging and finding out about process monitor, is that there's about 3 million events at startup. That seems insanely high, but I checked for cpu usage and nothing really seems to hog the cpu, and I'm not sure if the sheer amount is even related to the slowdown at all.
Any more guidance would be greatly appreciated and, again, thank you for your time!
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14 Jul 2014   #4
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
Boot Time too long

Hi. Here are my thoughts.

You could consider temporarily installing software that measures boot time and displays what's taking up time and from there you can probably work out what could be disabled or updated.

There are quite a few programs that fit the bill one that I've personally used and liked is:

Soluto: Displays each application that runs on boot and what it costs you in boot time. This software should be uninstalled once you've used it to fix problems as you don't want it running on every boot.

Download Soluto 1.3.1323.0 - FileHippo.com

Other than that if you want to get a little more technical and use Event Viewer to see if your Antivirus program is acting up (or something else) you might want to follow the steps listed in the following article:

Use Windows 7 Event Viewer to track down issues that cause slower boot times - TechRepublic

Hint: Don't forget to repeat the steps and create a second custom view as shown in the text underneath Figure C (below the image). Also not everything that's listed will be a problem. you should look at anything that seems to take an unusually long time and focus on those issues.
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14 Jul 2014   #5
var14ble

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Hi Callender, thanks for your reply.
I remember trying soluto for a couple of days in the past, and I didn't notice any significant change in my speed so I uninstalled it. I'm currently running a disk check since I was going to be away from my computer for a while and I figured I might as well, but I'll try it and let you know if anything changes when I get back.
As for the event viewer, I already used it and listed the details of my boot time in the first post. I don't have any other events besides the one code 100 for each boot, so I can't really pinpoint specific programs. I'm hoping soluto will help with this, but my hopes aren't very high.
Thanks for replying, though, and I hope your recommendation works for me.
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14 Jul 2014   #6
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

So did you go with the optimize tutorial?? and if those sfc / chkdsk did nothing then it may be a hardware problem.

Perhaps it might be an idea to start with this SeaTools for Windows | Seagate

if it comes up nothing then a surface test with this Best Free Partition Manager Freeware and free partition magic for Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows Vista and Windows XP 32 bit & 64 bit. MiniTool Free Partition Manager Software Home Edition. < see my pic


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14 Jul 2014   #7
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
Event ID's

Hi again, sorry - I missed the additional details in your first post (javascript was disabled). However I think that those details are not really helpful to you. What you might like to see is details like the following. I'll use my machine as an example.

View and details similar to your post:

Suddenly long boot times-event-viewer.jpg

Would like to see the following event ID's in custom view:

Boot Degradation plus custom view set up to include Event ID's 101 to 110. You're only showing Event ID 100.

Suddenly long boot times-event-viewer-2.jpg

And the details:

Suddenly long boot times-event-viewer-3.jpg

Soluto: They make a few products. The one I mention is not supposed to speed up anything. It's supposed to measure boot time and provide a report like this one:



From there you can choose to disable anything that's not actually needed:



That only helps with processes though rather than other stuff.

Other than that go with the other suggestions!

Best of luck!


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16 Jul 2014   #8
var14ble

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Hi, sorry it took me a while to reply, I've been away from the computer. Callender, I know how soluto works, what I meant by not noticing increased speed is that it didn't find any programs that significantly affected my boot speed, nor did it change anything when I disabled them. I'll give it another try in a now, though.

About the event viewer, this is a direct quote from my first post: "the only event log I have without code 100 is for a program that took 4 extra seconds to start," and another from a previous reply: "I don't have any other events besides the one code 100 for each boot, so I can't really pinpoint specific programs." I don't know if that wasn't clear enough, but I'm trying to say there aren't any other events besides the one I mentioned in the first post. They're just not there. With a couple of exceptions, since after running disk check and sfc scannow there have been one or two program events a couple of times, but the degradation time never adds up to more than 7 or 8 seconds. Again, I'll try soluto, but I'm not sure it's going to help. Better to try everything though.

ICit, I already deleted as many programs as I could from the startup folder, and the system seems to get stuck before the loading screen for windows shows up, so I doubt this is the problem. I'm starting to fear it might be a hardware issue like you suggested, since even in the boot event it doesn't show any degradation time. Before running to buy a new hard drive, though, I'll do as much as I can to fix it without formatting, and if nothing works I'll back everything up and format my computer. I just really hope I don't have to buy a new drive, but it does seem like a possibility at this point.
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16 Jul 2014   #9
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
Boot Time Issues

Like you said - Soluto just checks for processes running on boot that you can choose to get rid of but if it's a hardware issue it won't help.

Have you got Diagnostics enabled in Services? If not then the following filter will remain empty.

Suddenly long boot times-custom-view-properties.jpg

Hardware problems isn't something that I'm comfortable on helping diagnose!


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16 Jul 2014   #10
var14ble

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I'm not sure what you mean by having diagnostics enabled in services?
Although I'm guessing I do, since I do get a couple of events in that filter every now and then, just not something consistently sucking up time.
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