| Windows 7: Method to Keep Windows from Deteriorating |
31 Oct 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CT |
Method to Keep Windows from Deteriorating Over time, Windows begins to slow down, work less efficiently, etc. I have heard that some people actually reformat once a year and reinstall everything. Well, I do not have that much patience. Hopefully, I have come up with a short cut. I would like the input of the much more informed than me, to give suggestions, and ideas.
My Idea. Take a system of image of my OS, now, while it is only 4 days old. Enjoy my computer for the next few months or for the next year. At my discretion, or when the OS begins to lose efficiency. I back up my personal files, and use Window Easy Transfer to record my settings and preferences etc.
Now, I install the OS image that was taken many months ago, then tranfer my documents, etc and then use easy tranfer to reinstall my settings etc.
Did I come up with a good idea or are there limitations and problems that I am not experienced enough to realize? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 420 OS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CPU Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech Motherboard Dell Memory 6 gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650 Sound Card Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2009W 20" Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Cooling Fan Hard Drives 640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive Internet Speed DSL 2.85 |
31 Oct 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Your method would work, but I have to say that I have not noticed any deterioration in speed or efficiency due to aging installations since maybe Windows 98 or the early days of XP. Certainly not on Vista. I haven't done the habitual occasional reinstall thing in 5 or 6 years. Some of my installs were 2 years old and I never noticed any issues.
Yeah, registries can have any number of useless entries due to uninstalled programs, failed installs, etc, but I have never seen evidence that a modern processor would even blink at those issues.
If you are in fact slowing down over time, I would suggest there are other things going on that are preventable. How exactly do you notice this slowdown and what is your offhand guess as to the cause?
I assume you use good antivirus and antimalware programs and keep Windows updated for at least critical and important updates? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
31 Oct 2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CT |
I bought my first computer in 2000, using windows 98. I used it until 12/08, when I purchased my present computer with Vista. Only used Vista for a year, before I installed Windows 7. Vista did not give me a problem, but with 98, before I knew how to do anything besides, surf the net, email and basic maintenance, I had problems with 98, slowing down, bsod, programs had to be reinstalled to because they no longer worked properly, hanging, etc. I maintained it with updates, disc clean, defrag, etc. I always used a good Virus protection, but I think it was just age that began to eat away at old 98.
Last edited by richc46; 31 Oct 2009 at 12:06 PM..
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| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 420 OS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CPU Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech Motherboard Dell Memory 6 gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650 Sound Card Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2009W 20" Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Cooling Fan Hard Drives 640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive Internet Speed DSL 2.85 |
31 Oct 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
OK.
I would discard your experience with 98. Things are much improved in the last few years with XP, Vista, and now Windows 7.
My suggestion would be to make 2 image of Windows 7:
1: immediately after installation when all you have done is gotten all the available Windows updates and before you have installed applications.
2: a month or so later after you have your applications installed and everything is working well.
With any luck, you will never have to use either image. Store them preferably on an entirely different drive.
If you for whatever reason find that Windows 7 is performing poorly, you could restore one of the two images, but I would suggest that you first investigate the reasons for the deteriorating performance--it isn't natural and doesn't "just happen". I have not noticed anything like that in years.
If I am not mistaken, the built in Windows 7 imaging capabilities limit you to keeping only ONE image? If that is true, you might want to get acquainted with another imaging product like Acronis or Macrium Reflect. The latter is free and the former is often free. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
31 Oct 2009
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#5 | | win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 Ohio (From WV) |
Win 7 Image Ignatz
"If I am not mistaken, the built in Windows 7 imaging capabilities limit you to keeping only ONE image? If that is true, you might want to get acquainted with another imaging product like Acronis or Macrium Reflect. The latter is free and the former is often free."
I agree both Acronis and Macrium are good. Although I have not been able to get Acronis fully functional on Windows 7 X64.
As for MS backup, it will keep more than one image if you have the sapce requirements on your target drive set up to allow room. Or at least that is what it claims. Never the less I just wrote the second image to another disk. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BGC (Bob's Garage Crew) OS win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 CPU I3770K Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory G Skill F3-14900CL9-4GBXL x 4 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 + Intel 4000 Sound Card Realtek HD 5.1 (MOB) Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW224T (1) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS Wireless 3000 V2 Mouse MS Wireless 3000 V2 PSU CoolerMaster 1000 Watt Case CoolerMaster HAF X Cooling CPU -- CoolerMaster 520N Hard Drives SATA Corsair Force GT 2.5" 180GB (System) Sata 3
OCZ Vertex3 120GB
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB 2.5" SATA II
ST31000524AS 1000.2GB
WD15EARS (External) Internet Speed Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE9 Other Info AMI Bios 1805
OC'd 3% |
31 Oct 2009
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I still see Windows boxes slowing down over time. There is absolutely no doubt that my boot speeds of Vista have move than doubled since I got my work laptop nearly 1 year ago. I don't have the time to reformat and reinstall all of my work stuff...even though it would make a nice difference for awhile.
Imaging is certainly a great way to go. It saves you have to reinstall drivers and reactivate the operating system. And since the "system image" utility is free with all versions of Windows 7...there really isn't a good reason to not at least use it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
31 Oct 2009
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#7 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
The slowdown of your system is a function of what you install. Some programs/functions can take a big hit (e.g. virtual Box running a couple of virtual partitions). But also security programs, sidebar and others will impact especially your boot times. With your proposed system it will be the same. After you reinstalled all the stuff that you aquired between day4 and day400, you will be back at square1. The best is to be very selective of what you install and get a system that has a lot of muscle (CPU, disk - prefer an SSD, and RAM). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
31 Oct 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by whs The slowdown of your system is a function of what you install. True enough. However, lots of people install things to try and end up not really using it. Plus, they do need some apps for certain things and then don't need them again. So, that's why starting from scratch can pay off...because I wouldn't really re-install eveyrthing that I did the last time. In fact, with most things, I don't even bother reinstalling them until there is a need to run that particular application. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
31 Oct 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by richc46 Over time, Windows begins to slow down, work less efficiently, etc. I have heard that some people actually reformat once a year and reinstall everything. Well, I do not have that much patience. Hopefully, I have come up with a short cut. I would like the input of the much more informed than me, to give suggestions, and ideas.
My Idea. Take a system of image of my OS, now, while it is only 4 days old. Enjoy my computer for the next few months or for the next year. At my discretion, or when the OS begins to lose efficiency. I back up my personal files, and use Window Easy Transfer to record my settings and preferences etc.
Now, I install the OS image that was taken many months ago, then tranfer my documents, etc and then use easy tranfer to reinstall my settings etc.
Did I come up with a good idea or are there limitations and problems that I am not experienced enough to realize? Deteriorating is due to FRAGMENTATION... DEFRAG often. | My System Specs | | |
31 Oct 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy Deteriorating is due to FRAGMENTATION... DEFRAG often. It could be, but it might not be. My personal experience with defrag is that in 90% of cases, it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. The reason it slows down has more to do with startup applications and windows components that get installed in my case then defragmentation. For others, there experiences may be different. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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