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Windows 7: Setting of page file for an SSD drive recommendation

20 Oct 2014   #1
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 
Setting of page file for an SSD drive recommendation

In setting the page file for a normal hard drive (By normal I mean non-SSD) I agreed with those who said to NOT disable the paging file. One such site was Lifehacker. Years on, on pages where they agree with me, as in Lifehacker that you should NOT disable the page file, they are saying to set the page file to such and such BUT now they are adding 'unless you have an SSD drive.
Now I know to some degrees why SSD drives are the different, not to defrag it for ex. but should I now disable the page file? Really? I would need a really good argument (or 2, 3) for me to do so. Having said this however I would perhaps feel more comfortable in setting a minimum instead.
My specs are:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
12 GB RAM
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO, 256G (of which only 232GB are useable according to what I see in My Computer)
CPU: Intel i5 760 2.80GHZ
Thank you


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20 Oct 2014   #2
ignatzatsonic

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

You might get a variety of answers, but I'd speculate that the most common one would be to keep a page file, regardless of how much RAM you have and regardless of what type or how many hard drives you have.

It's like religion, drive fragmentation, and anti-virus applications. Everyone has their own preferences and opinions. Discussions don't resolve much---as you've found.

I wouldn't think it matters much where you keep it in a typical user case--it isn't likely to be used much anyway, particularly with 12 GB of RAM. If you are a high-anxiety person, prone to fretting and worrying, you could move it to an HDD, regardless of how sensible or necessary that might be.

I'd also guess the most common recommendation would be to let Windows manage the size, but if you are cramped for space or just can't keep yourself from meddling, you could use a minimum and maximum of maybe 1 GB and 2 GB.
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20 Oct 2014   #3
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

Have you installed the Samsung Magician software?. There are various options you can use under OS Optimisation. I have a Samsung 840 Pro 256gb SSD & it is set for Maximum Capacity & that sets the Paging File between 200mb & 1gb (1000mb).

I let the Magician software make all the setting for my SSD as I think Samsung would have the best idea on how to get the best from their SSD's.
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20 Oct 2014   #4
Shimshom

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I set mine to 1024mb having 8gb of RAM and keep it on the SSD and never had a problem or an issue with the SSD or any programs so best to choose your own path as the merits or otherwise of it all can be argued til the moon turns purple
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20 Oct 2014   #5
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I have 8 SSDs and all of them have the page file and have it set to the SSD. I have never had an issue. SSDs are not as fragile as most people think, quite the opposite. xtremesystems did a test with numerous SSDs seeing how much they could write to them before they died. Many of them were in Petabytes before dying. I do reduce my page file as I have 16GB of ram, but I still keep it on the SSD.
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20 Oct 2014   #6
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

AAAaaahhhhh! Panic perhaps. Remembering that like Ranger4 I too do have Samsung Magician I went on and did the setting there. Samsung prompted me with a window telling me some virtual thing or other wasn't installed and in order for me to set it a reboot was needed. And so I did. And then came the 'Aaaah!'
What happened upon reboot is that a blue window showed up, not the infamous blue screen of death but a simple actual window of a desktop except no desktop appeared (I have a few shortcuts there and an image). Anyhow at the bottom r-hand corner it said . This is not a genuine version of windows" That's when my 'Aaaah' started again.' I do have a genuine version OEM but nevertheless genuine and my last reinstall was based on a legitimate ISO based on a link here somewhere (the same link provided by Microsoft).
I clicked on the 'Switch user' icon link and chose me again (that is my only choice) and lo and behold my normal window popped up. This begs 2 questions: -1- why the 1st window without my actual desktop (or at least not all of it) and -2- why did Microsoft Windows think (and possibly still do so) that I had or have a non-genuine version?
On a side note and possibly related, the original Windows OS was installed on my original hard drive. Upon buying the SSD a new install was performed--therefore does Windows think the HHD was the original owner of the OS and this new SSD is not? The MB and CPU are still the same.
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21 Oct 2014   #7
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

The change of hard drives should cause no problems at all.

Was this new installation from the downloaded ISO for the same version of Windows as that specified on the Certificate Of Authenticity?

Did you activate this new installation with the Product Key shown on the Certificate Of Authenticity?

I've heard good and bad things about Samsung Magician, but it should certainly be possible to configure the page file without using Magician.

Do you have any System Restore points available?

The downloaded ISO shouldn't be an "OEM version" but doesn't need to be.
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21 Oct 2014   #8
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

The installation was many months ago and I never had any problems regarding this issue. And yes, it was done using the serial on the original cd. My mention of it now was that perhaps it is the 1st time it actually 'recognized' the new drive. I know this doesn't make sense but though this is on the C: drive, the old c; drive still appears elsewhere (only just noticed it when trying to allocate more memory space to it for page file).
So since this now appeared on a faceless desktop screen I was wondering if this is what Windows thinks in the background somewhere. But the thing is "authenticity'' has been tested many times before, has it not via updates and what-have-you--including other Microsoft updates like office.
There is not 1 thing illegal on my pc, not one. My being a teacher (and student) allows me to get many software at a very small price especially the MS Office and Adobe suites.
Years back i did, but no longer, and since then, due to this, and me being more careful everywhere else I have never had problems with, trojans, viruses or anything else unwanted hence my surprise on all counts.
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21 Oct 2014   #9
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

There are quite a few Posts of this sort of problem in "Windows Updates & Activation" on this forum. It might be advisable to Post your problem there, but you do need to follow the Posting procedure required.

It seems that sometimes when a new drive is installed an Invalid Windows Activation shows up & this can be caused by the Intel Rapid Storage Technology drivers being the wrong ones or need updating.
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22 Oct 2014   #10
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pintree3 View Post
In setting the page file for a normal hard drive (By normal I mean non-SSD)
SSD: Samsung 840 EVO, 256G (of which only 232GB are useable according to what I see in My Computer)
CPU: Intel i5 760 2.80GHZ
Thank you
I got this about the missing gigs
Quote:
So, essentially, Windows calculates Gigabytes as 1,073,741,824 bytes, which is 1024^3 bytes. Other OS's, as well as storage manufactures calculate a Gigabyte as 1,000,000,000 bytes, which is 1000^3 bytes. We go by a smaller amount than what Windows goes by, so Windows will report less even though we provided the advertised amount. I hope that makes sense.
http://forums.crucial.com/t5/Crucial...ed/ta-p/129368
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