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Windows 7: Decently Terrible Performance (Help me?)

24 Jan 2015   #11
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Thank you for filling in your System Specs. Nice system.

There are many things that can cause this problem and most likely more than one thing.

Here is a tutorial that gives a list of things that could help.
You probably don't need to do many of them but it's worth reading.

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The next thing I noticed is you have Malwarebytes. That is good.
You also need a anti virus program. So I would recommend using MSE.
MSE and Malwarebytes Premium or free work well together. Infections and PUP's could be causing part of your problems.

Microsoft Security Essentials - Microsoft Windows

Eset free online Scan is a great scan and I would start with it. We need to know your system is clean.

ESET Free Online Scanner :: Complete Malware Detection :: ESET


Once Malwarebytes, MSE and Eset says your system is clean we can continue. It will take a little while to do these scans. Let us know what is found.

If you will work with us we will do this in step at a time and you will get fixed or know why.

Remember you are are eyes and ears. We need your input so we can give proper guidance.

Just notes:
1. Your cpu has 6 cores and 12 threads. Very nice cpu but they do run a litte warm.

2. You are running Marvell Raid. I know very little about raid.
Most home users really don't need such a thing. Marvell leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Enterprise systems use it because they need Raid.


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24 Jan 2015   #12
Death1223

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Personally I don't like an active Anti-Virus because it always seems to get in my way for most of the things I do. I can do a complete scan with say... RogueKiller, MalwareBytes etc. but I don't want active protection.

Thanks

Also Okay. I was under the impression it has 12 CPUs since it says right here that it does:

but honestly I'll admit I don't know much when it comes to hardware. I'm more of a software guy.


Update:
I finished scanning using Malwarebytes and no signs of any viruses.
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24 Jan 2015   #13
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Death1223 View Post
Update:
I finished scanning using Malwarebytes and no signs of any viruses.
Assorted anti-virus and malware-related software products seem to look for an assorted variety of clues and problems. As I had alluded to earlier, MSE and Malwarebytes are probably the two least intrusive such always-running always-protecting you products out there, at least as compared to more commercial big-name (but terribly intrusive) alternatives.

Anyway, a one-time scan with Malwarebytes is step #3 of this particular 7-step recipe for examining and cleaning out all types of infestation. Seven different software products are used, and although the previously mentioned ESET used to be part of this recipe (as an eighth step) it no longer is mentioned but shouldn't hurt anything to also run it. I'm suggesting you spend the one-time energy running these scan/clean products, just to gain the benefit of all of their different search targets, perspectives and opinions that they each have.

The goal here is really to get an initial "clean bill of health" malware-wise for your BEAST of a system before seeking out other possible causes for your gradual slowdown symptom, since malware infections are very often directly responsible for such issues, and effective removal of same is unbelievably successful in rejuvenating a system. The fact that you aren't running active anti-virus and anti-malware protections is actually a bit concerning, and possibly quite relevant.

So, starting with a freshly taken "system image" backup just in case something unexpected occurs during the scan/clean sequence, I'd recommend running more than just Malwarebytes scan. I'd recommend following all the steps in that "guide to easily cleaning infections" (and adding ESET), which has been very successful in my own experience when asked by friends to explain why their own systems have slowed to a crawl.

Even if this one-time full scan sequence finds nothing, at least you now have certified proof that whatever your issues eventually turn out to be, they're not caused by malware infections.
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24 Jan 2015   #14
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Could you explain what you do on your computer that a anti virus gets in the way. Just curious.

ARK | Intel® Coreā

Quote:
# of Cores 6
# of Threads 12
Processor Base Frequency 3.46 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.73 GHz
TDP 130 W
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25 Jan 2015   #15
Death1223

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I've actually tried MSE before, and the active protection got in the way 2 times before I disabled it. It gave false-positives for certain game files I was playing (might I add they were official and nothing illegal. Both were free online MMORPGs), and I kept getting corruption errors while patching until I disabled active protection. I'll go through those seven steps right now and update this post with the results though.

Also thanks for the information, Layback Bear, good knowledge to have about one's system.
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25 Jan 2015   #16
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I have found that MSE seldom, I say again seldom give false positives.

Did you run the Eset on line scanner? If so what was found?
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25 Jan 2015   #17
Death1223

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Step 1.
Kaspersky TDSSKiller:


Step 2.
RKill:
Done.

Step 3.
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (Free):


Step 4.
HitmanPro:


Step 5.
AdwCleaner:

Done. Deleted some Registry values.

Step 6.
RogueKiller:

Done. Deleted some Suspicious.Path Tasks

Step 7.
EMSISoft Emergency Kit:

The AV detected 8 Suspicious Files, which I deleted.
It also found two "trojans" which I think was a false positive since It's the official EverQuest... and I am pretty sure MotionJoy isn't a virus, let alone a trojan.


I deleted them anyways, and uninstalled EverQuest since I only played it once.


And completely finished. Everything came back fairly clean. Even without active anti-viruses I have decent intellect when it comes to avoiding viruses. I've operated without an active anti-virus for most of my computer's life. Just takes a little common sense to not infect yourself, and I do weekly maintenance which does include RogueKiller(I usually run MalwareBytes then RogueKiller weekly.)


Thanks for your help so far, I really do appreciate it.

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[Bonus] Step 8.
ESET Free Online Scanner:


All of the "threats" it found were programs that would translate games I play. I play Japanese Visual Novels and don't know their language well enough to play them without the help of 3rd party help, so I use the programs which "hook" onto the visual novel and translate it real-time for me. Also this scan took a LONG time, so sorry about that!
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25 Jan 2015   #18
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Can you show some snap shots.

msconfig/Startup and Non Microsoft Services?

It really doesn't really mater what language a infection is.
A infection is a infection. Every one found should be removed of completely research to verify it's a false positive.

The time to run the scans is no problem. We understand because we have also done those scans.
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25 Jan 2015   #19
Death1223

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Oh, I know why it detected it as a false positive is what I was saying. It hooks onto the program and reads the data. It's definitely not an infected file. I can tell you that much. I did however re-download it cleanly from the official site after the AV deleted it.

Now going about this msconfig thing will be a little difficult considering how many services I have.
I got this from CCleaner which I'm actually able to resize and get it all in one screenshot(It's the same exact start-up as msconfig. I double checked) but there are SO many non-microsoft services that it's a little difficult.

Start-up:


Here's my attempt at the services:
(Thrown together a bunch of screenshots in paint)


Let me know what you think!

Thank you again for this. Much appreciated.
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25 Jan 2015   #20
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Death1223 View Post
Oh, I know why it detected it as a false positive is what I was saying. It hooks onto the program and reads the data. It's definitely not an infected file. I can tell you that much. I did however re-download it cleanly from the official site after the AV deleted it.
You should be able to report a false-positive to the AV vendor so they can fix their definitions if it is a false-positive.

All AVs I've used allow adding files/folders to an exclusion list, so they will not be scanned.
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