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Windows 7: Need help improving performance of the windows 7 machine.

08 Mar 2016   #31
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Well I still reckon say 6GB RAM on that machine would be worth a try because even if it opens up the tiniest bit more memory. It is going to cost you not much at all and if say it gives you 4GB usable rather than 2.96GB then surely (it makes sense to me at least) and get the max speed RAM as the machine will support as Addram has said.

What have you got to lose??
The system is at it's maximum available memory limit due to the requirement to retain a 32bit architecture, adding 2GB or 200GB, (I know this is not possible), would not change that at all,

As one reason for not updating the software to allow use of 64 Bit architecture is cost, simply throwing money at the problem is not a viable solution


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08 Mar 2016   #32
Dolke

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Thats true.

In that case I will probably go for another 2 x 2 Gb of the same brand and get 8 Gb...

Its not big investment and its worth trying. Thank you for the suggestion.
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08 Mar 2016   #33
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Well I still reckon say 6GB RAM on that machine would be worth a try because even if it opens up the tiniest bit more memory. It is going to cost you not much at all and if say it gives you 4GB usable rather than 2.96GB then surely (it makes sense to me at least) and get the max speed RAM as the machine will support as Addram has said.

What have you got to lose??
The system is at it's maximum available memory limit due to the requirement to retain a 32bit architecture, adding 2GB or 200GB, (I know this is not possible), would not change that at all,

As one reason for not updating the software to allow use of 64 Bit architecture is cost, simply throwing money at the problem is not a viable solution

One thing I would check is the BIOS.

Check to ensure that any on-board graphics is actually switched off, most systems will use any installed discrete graphics over internal, but may not actually switch off the onboard graphics ant it's use of memory

The reason I suggest this is I have just checked my system and it shows a system reserved amount of Approximately 18MB, OK that is on a 64Bit system with 32GB of ram with a discreet Graphics Card but is far less that the system in question with the issue
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08 Mar 2016   #34
Dolke

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Before I upgraded to i7 860 I had i3 540

i3 540 CPU has graphics chip within the CPU package so I didnt have descreete graphics card.
i7 860 CPU doesnt have graphics chip within the CPU package and motherboard doesnt have the chip either.

So I put the descreete graphics.

Still system only shows 2.96Gb available. Its really low amount. If I can somehow get it to 3.5Gb that would be improvement.

P.S.

BIOS is not the latest. I might try update the BIOS first although everything is working properly.
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08 Mar 2016   #35
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dolke View Post
So I put the descreete graphics.

Still system only shows 2.96Gb available. Its really low amount. If I can somehow get it to 3.5Gb that would be improvement.
For Windows 32 Bit, it's not only a max 4 GB RAM limit, it's also a 4 GB Address Space limit.
Adding a GPU with built in VRAM will not increase the amount of RAM available to Windows.
Having PC with 4 GB RAM and adding a GPU with .5 GB VRAM will not give you 4.5 GB Address Space (RAM) in Win 32 Bit.

You can go through all your BIOS settings and disable everything you don't need, such as a Floppy Drive, Parallel Port, etc.
You can also adjust the amount of memory used wherever possible.
The settings available depend on what your motherboard offers, you have to take time and find what you can do, and test any changes.
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08 Mar 2016   #36
Dolke

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

I see.

Thank you for the suggestions.

I will try these settings and I might upgrade BIOS to a newest version.

P.S.

Is there some other features that people usually disable in order to increse amout of avaialbe RAM iin window 7?

Of course disable those should be safe and not to influence stability of the system.
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08 Mar 2016   #37
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

You could check out what services you have running and consider turning some of them off, particularly non-Microsoft services.

There are web sites that will tell you which services you can safely turn off, but many would say that those web sites are not reliable and that turning off any particular service may have unintended consequences because services can be dependent on each other to an extent.
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08 Mar 2016   #38
Dolke

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

So basically non of those lets call them tweaks is not reliablie and can cause system not be stable.

I will check those BIOS settings but I really dont have the habit of turning such services on and off.

I think one should really understand to the bottom what hes doing and I dont know that Im one of them in most of the time.
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09 Mar 2016   #39
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

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The system is at it's maximum available memory limit due to the requirement to retain a 32bit architecture, adding 2GB or 200GB, (I know this is not possible), would not change that at all,
Yes Nigel my reasoning was just that the 4GB was maxed out and it might be increased that tiny bit or even the memory loaded more evenly - through more chips being available.

Dolke did you say you tried the optimise tutorial?
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09 Mar 2016   #40
Dolke

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

I did try the tut but honestly I didnt go through all of the steps just yet.

I found another interesting thing... I noticed that RDC sessions (some of them) use more resources then others.

For example, I have 6 user accounts on this machine. When 2 of those users connect remotely via RDC Skype loads on these and thats something totally unnessesary. These RDC sessions should be "flat" meaning only needed services should run...

Is there a way to optimize those(RDC sessions)?
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