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Windows 7: Windows 7 Slow Startup/Sound not detected Until Restart

25 Oct 2016   #1
Kat777

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 
Windows 7 Slow Startup/Sound not detected Until Restart

Hi, I've been having this soundcard not working and slow startup issue, for 5 months now. When I start the computer it's slow and the soundcard is not detected at all. I go to playback devices and it's not even something I can select. Restarting the computer always corrects the problem. Once Windows starts everything is fine, but the initial startup is very slow. Occasionally the internet connection isn't detected either, but it's rare. Restart usually fixes that too but it's not everyday like the soundcard. It feels like when Windows is starting it hangs on something. I went through msconfig and checked everything I could, and nothing seems suspicious or unaccounted for. I'm not entirely sure though.

Things I did-
ccleaner
Malwarebytes

I've checked for viruses with Malwarebytes and Windows Security Essentials on a daily basis and they never detect anything and the computer does run well once everything is working after restarting. Things started to go downhill during that Windows 10 anytime upgrade. I'm unsure what drivers my soundcard uses. I think it was discontinued too - SB Recon3D PCIe. It feels like it may be related to that but I am unsure really. I could use some help.

If anyone can help with this problem I'd greatly appreciate it. I am getting a new pc in March, but I need this one for work so I have to make it last until March, when I can afford to get something new.


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26 Oct 2016   #2
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hello Kat mate have you tried just reseating the card - often a simple answer and I suppose you have updated the drivers??

Now as for your msconfig ticking everything will invariably slow down the boot I leave everything except CCleaner unchecked.

Now you have not listed the sound card in your specs - what is it? By the way the specs you have included look pretty nice to me and it should be running reasonably quickly.

Try running these please
SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker
Disk Check < if necessary include the /f and /r in the command line as per Option2
Run these in safe mode and the sfc often best run for two to three runs you can leave out the /r switch in ckdsk if you feel it not necessary
NB SFC best run for about three scans

if no fix then these

http://www.superantispyware.com/ ( a good daily run too for adware as well as nasties)

AdwCleaner Download
ADW download from bleeping computer delete any rubbish found with the malware scans
(NB If you are running Kaspersky as the main AV then it might need disabling it when trying ADW because it does not like it at times)
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26 Oct 2016   #3
Kat777

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 

Hey ICIT2LOL,

Thank you for the reply. I'll do as you said and post back later what I find. My soundcard is SB Recon3D PCIe, I did list it up there. I couldn't find windows 7 64 drivers for that were recent. I think something with the sound happened where the NVidia hd sound, Razer Surround sound or whatever it is (I uninstalled that), but maybe it is still giving me problems?) maybe caused a conflict. I'm not sure. I'll do the other stuff and post back but I'm not sure about the soundcard drivers at all.
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26 Oct 2016   #4
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

The latest 64bit drivers for your device are dated 2014 on the Creative site I cannot give a direct link as they force you to use their selector "app" on the site - this Driver is quite recent for creative who often stop updating drivers as soon as a new OS is released ( in this case windows 8) they have then been known to release an updated version of the hardware that work with the new OS, release drivers for the new OS for the New hardware but not update older drivers to allow you to use the old hardware with the new OS. It's a rather underhand sales method that they started when vista was release and actually lost them a lot of sales
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26 Oct 2016   #5
Kat777

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 

Thanks for finding those drivers. They seemed to have worked and hopefully that doesn't change, but the startup still seems slow. Also, I noticed after running ccleaner the desktop icons take longer to load up.

I ran the sfc /scannow and disk check, both are good.
I ran the antivirus scans and nothing was detected but one cookie for tumblr.

Is there some other information I can submit that might assist with understanding why the startup is slow? Or why the desktop icons are loading slow now? I read sometimes it needs to rebuild the library or something for them, but when I cleared all that with ccleaner it seemed to be what actually caused it.
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27 Oct 2016   #6
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

The desktop, and all other icons, are held in a temporary store - The Icon Cache - if you clear this, every-time you display an icon the system needs to do some "housekeeping" to check the Icon, build it it various forms and store these in the cache. It should sort itself in time - How long depends on many things - icon number, complexity, and system load, ( the system only does housekeeping tasks when it is idle).

As for the start-up - the best option is to check the startup tab in MSConfig.exe (just type msconfig into the start "Run" box ...

Check all the items and uncheck those that you do not really need to have loaded every time you start the system - only you can decide this but in reality far too many programs add startup entries

Here is a full tutorial on these issues ... Startup Programs - Change

Edit with the icon Cache issue, Ccleaner does have an option to clear the Icon Cache when it runs - unless you have issues with incorrect icons displaying I would suggest you un-check this option as it will produce the same issue you have every time you run it
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27 Oct 2016   #7
Kat777

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 

Well I thought the sound problem was fixed by updating the drivers and it worked after multiple shutdowns and restarts yesterday, but then today it came back. So I'm not sure what the problem is. If I reboot the computer the sound comes back but it seems like when I do a complete shutdown and power it up, it's never detected at all.
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28 Oct 2016   #8
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Well if it were me I would change the sound card as I tried to help someone just a few days ago and it involved a Creative system and the drivers were extremely difficult to even find a mention about let alone find.

That member had actually been in contact with that manufacturer and the support was just abysmal.

My choice would be an Asus Xonar DGX - not expensive and a great GUI / interface and I have the Xonar DG in all my desktops hooked up to 5:1 Logitec systems a Z506 and Z 313 (again not expensive) and even though I say so myself I am very fussy re audio - these cards perform flawlessly.

But it is your budget and choice of course.
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29 Oct 2016   #9
Kat777

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 

The odd past is this thing worked great for just short of 4 years. The slow start and why it doesn't even show soundblaster in device manager until I reboot is strange.
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30 Oct 2016   #10
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Ok Kat now what have you got set in the start up tab in msconfig? To do that (I am assuming here you haven't looked) hit Start type msconfig > it will come as a box with System Configuration Utility in it > right click that and then clcik on run as admin > you can then uncheck what is set to start at power up.

Personally I uncheck everything except CCleaner as you can see in the pic. Now just because you uncheck something doesn't mean it will not load - for example your AV system things that are required for the system will eventually load. Now if you have Creative as a start up item then try just leaving that checked at start up.

See if this makes any difference before we move on to something like a memtest.

By the by the board I am on right now in my Ivy Bridge is the same as yours only not the De Luxe version and I would be tempted to think about updating the audio for it if only out of curiosity. It might not help at all but stranger things happen at sea P8Z77-V DELUXE | Motherboards | ASUS Global

Just an example was my USB ports dropping out for whatever I thought at the time and it turned out to be the Samsung Magician software that was the culprit - now I would never have thought that but only for a turned on senior member saw my issue and knew what it was so simple uninstall and all was good
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