Windows 7 boots slowly with black screen after "Welcome"

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  1. Posts : 7,351
    Windows 7 HP 64
       #31

    Are both Win 7 64 bits?
    How much memory?
    How is the virtual memory set?

    If you suspect that is a driver, you can update and then make it look at the Windows folder of the fast booting.
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  2. Posts : 37
    Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
    Thread Starter
       #32

    Megahertz07 said:
    Are both Win 7 64 bits?
    How much memory?
    How is the virtual memory set?


    If you suspect that is a driver, you can update and then make it look at the Windows folder of the fast booting.
    Hello
    I have 4 Gb RAM, all OSs are 64bit
    I use default setting for using virtual RAM, maybe I haven't used virtual RAM
    I have thought it was drivers but now after re-installing and updating, drivers seems okay now. Boot log file doesn't have tons of lines "Did not load driver....".

    Callender said:
    Also let's check here:

    Run msconfig and look at the boot tab. Experiment with "No GUI Boot" and a low numberr of timeout seconds. Mine is set to 4 seconds.
    Hi, I have tested with no GUI boot with clean boot but it seems nothing different.
    Code:
    Windows has started up: 
         Boot Duration		:	85469ms
         IsDegradation		:	false
         Incident Time (UTC)	:	‎2016‎-‎11‎-‎14T15:13:42.702800400Z
    + System 
    
      - Provider 
    
       [ Name]  Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance 
       [ Guid]  {CFC18EC0-96B1-4EBA-961B-622CAEE05B0A} 
     
       EventID 100 
     
       Version 2 
     
       Level 2 
     
       Task 4002 
     
       Opcode 34 
     
       Keywords 0x8000000000010000 
     
      - TimeCreated 
    
       [ SystemTime]  2016-11-14T15:15:45.161449900Z 
     
       EventRecordID 4031 
     
      - Correlation 
    
       [ ActivityID]  {03307C58-F800-0003-2554-BDAF893ED201} 
     
      - Execution 
    
       [ ProcessID]  1696 
       [ ThreadID]  2332 
     
       Channel Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational 
     
       Computer My-PC 
     
      - Security 
    
       [ UserID]  S-1-5-19 
     
    
    - EventData 
    
      BootTsVersion 2 
      BootStartTime 2016-11-14T15:13:42.702800400Z 
      BootEndTime 2016-11-14T15:15:43.024745800Z 
      SystemBootInstance 58 
      UserBootInstance 56 
      BootTime 85469 
      MainPathBootTime 40969 
      BootKernelInitTime 38 
      BootDriverInitTime 860 
      BootDevicesInitTime 1023 
      BootPrefetchInitTime 42179 
      BootPrefetchBytes 489218048 
      BootAutoChkTime 0 
      BootSmssInitTime 5336 
      BootCriticalServicesInitTime 507 
      BootUserProfileProcessingTime 1497 
      BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 327 
      BootExplorerInitTime 26498 
      BootNumStartupApps 1 
      BootPostBootTime 44500 
      BootIsRebootAfterInstall false 
      BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits 0 
      BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0 
      BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0 
      BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0 
      BootIsDegradation false 
      BootIsStepDegradation false 
      BootIsGradualDegradation false 
      BootImprovementDelta 0 
      BootDegradationDelta 0 
      BootIsRootCauseIdentified false 
      OSLoaderDuration 2223 
      BootPNPInitStartTimeMS 38 
      BootPNPInitDuration 1041 
      OtherKernelInitDuration 1518 
      SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS 2428 
      SystemPNPInitDuration 842 
      SessionInitStartTimeMS 3402 
      Session0InitDuration 1239 
      Session1InitDuration 151 
      SessionInitOtherDuration 3945 
      WinLogonStartTimeMS 8738 
      OtherLogonInitActivityDuration 3907 
      UserLogonWaitDuration 664
    The time from booting logo to Welcome screen is very short, but the time from the welcome screen to desktop screen is long and not smooth
    I have also run sfc.exe. It says Windows did not find any integrity violations
    Then I use DriverView DriverView: Loaded Windows Drivers List to see drivers list on my slow booting OS. I see 3 drivers "dump_diskdump.sys, dump_dumpfve.sys, dump_iaStorA.sys", they have file type "unknown" and no information about them. But they might not cause problem.
    Looking at Event Viewer I dont know why all boot times are level "Error" or at least "warning"?
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    Last edited by ntd252; 14 Nov 2016 at 10:54.
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  3. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #33

    Hi,
    Do you load graphic's drivers from microsoft updates ?
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  4. Posts : 4,776
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #34

    Okay well boot time actually now looks okay to me. It's way faster than mine. However since I use a RAMdisk and the contents are loaded on boot my machine will take a few minutes to fully load everything.
    Your boot: 85469ms
    My Boot: 252712ms

    ntd252 said:
    The time from booting logo to Welcome screen is very short, but the time from the welcome screen to desktop screen is long and not smooth
    Do you have a solid color desktop background or do you use an image?

    See the thread here:

    Slow login

    There are a few tips but other than changing desktop background also try this one:

    DelayedDesktopSwitchTimeout - slow login
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  5. Posts : 4,776
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #35

    I just remembered this registry tweak:

    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    # Windows will tell you exactly what it is doing when it is shutting down or is booting
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\policies\system]
    "verbosestatus"=dword:00000001

    It won't display specific details but will tell you "Preparing Desktop" and maybe a few other messages after you see the welcome screen. Let us know which message displays for the longest time.
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  6. Posts : 37
    Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
    Thread Starter
       #36

    ThrashZone said:
    Hi,
    Do you load graphic's drivers from microsoft updates ?
    I use driver from Intel site. My GPU is intel HD 4000 with the lastest version
    But I have uninstalled it to analyze booting.
    Callender said:
    I just remembered this registry tweak:

    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    # Windows will tell you exactly what it is doing when it is shutting down or is booting
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\policies\system]
    "verbosestatus"=dword:00000001

    It won't display specific details but will tell you "Preparing Desktop" and maybe a few other messages after you see the welcome screen. Let us know which message displays for the longest time.
    https://www.sevenforums.com/images/smilies/sad.gif
    The longest is "preparing your desktop".
    I use default themes in Windows. sometimes nature, sometimes architecture
    I have read a post on microsoft community with one post says that using registry cleaning may cause serious problem that can only be fixed by re-installing OS. Some months ago I had tried to use Glary Ultilities and Ccleaner to clean registry. So can it cause that?
    I also include process on login (using Autorun)
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    Last edited by ntd252; 15 Nov 2016 at 02:20.
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  7. Posts : 7,351
    Windows 7 HP 64
       #37

    Try this:
    - Boot on safe mode and see if it is fast.
    - Run msconfig and disable all sevices but MS. Disable all Start up programs.
    - If you get a fast boot, you will know that is some service or start up program.
    - Enable 50%. If you get a fast boot, you will know that is some service or start up program on the other 50%.
    - Enable 50% of the other 50%. Keep doing till you find the service or Start up program that is problematic.

    Another reason my be a double safety: Dual firewall or dual antivirus program.
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  8. Posts : 37
    Windows 7 home premium 32 bit
    Thread Starter
       #38

    Megahertz07 said:
    Try this:
    - Boot on safe mode and see if it is fast.
    - Run msconfig and disable all sevices but MS. Disable all Start up programs.
    - If you get a fast boot, you will know that is some service or start up program.
    - Enable 50%. If you get a fast boot, you will know that is some service or start up program on the other 50%.
    - Enable 50% of the other 50%. Keep doing till you find the service or Start up program that is problematic.

    Another reason my be a double safety: Dual firewall or dual antivirus program.
    Hello,
    I have run clean boot but it happened even on clean boot. That means something wrong in my system. As I say the booting isn't too long, just longer than the normal time that is acceptable. I can choose to "live with slow" but the black screen after welcome screen is so annoying
    So maybe I should stop trying now If it's true that registry cleanner causes that. Nothing more to do.
    I also check that Windows defender and default firewall are turned off.
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  9. Posts : 4,776
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #39

    RE: Registry Cleaners. I stopped using them (even Ccleaner's reg cleanup) and my system works better with less problems. Having said that I do use a reg scanner where I can set keys to ignore from the scan results and manually select anything that actually needs to be deleted.

    After uninstalling software I do a manual registry search and cleanup.

    I reckon drivers and startup items are fine on your machine. I'm wondering how many folders and shortcuts are located in your desktop?

    Possibly if you've got folders that contain video or image files try moving them onto an external drive and disconnect the drive before rebooting to see if there is any improvement. Also for shortcuts you can do the same. If there happens to be an improvement copy everything back in small batches until the problem re-appears.

    Also when you finish using your machine for the day run this command then reboot:

    chkdsk /r /f

    It will run a full disk check and could take some time.

    Then for good measure rebuild icon cache and reset notification area icons:



    Don't close the window until you are asked if you want to reboot.
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  10. Posts : 4,776
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       #40

    Related thread here with some ideas in Post #11

    Long delay after windows start screen

    EDIT: Re the above idea in that thread:

    Check this thread:

    Driver cleanup

    Forget the other tools mentioned but use GhostBuster to look for ghosted (non present) devices and cleanup.

    It's not straightforward but you should be able to get an idea of how to use it from the screenshots.
    Last edited by Callender; 15 Nov 2016 at 17:19. Reason: add info
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