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Windows 7: Reboot Time Problem

23 Nov 2009   #11

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Take a look at the services that are running. Any that you do not use, take a look at what appl depends on it. If you are sure you do not want it, at start up you can turn it off. If you are not sure you can ask here. You may also want to make a system image before you make any changes, just so you can restore everytning in case there is a problem. I will look at services and give my recommendation, also.


EDIT. As I was typing the prior poster gave you a good lead the infomation about services. Take a look at it and then return if you have any questions. But dont change anything unless you are sure. One thing that I saw already is Parental Controls, unless you actually use it.

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23 Nov 2009   #12

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mitchell64 View Post
Hello Nolephin, I have to agree with richc46 I know service tweaks made a vast differrence with Vista startup, Seven seems to have made a lot of those tweaks default but there are still some you can shut down or set to manual (that way your OS can still start them if needed but wont run at start up)
Here is a link to a handy guide on service tweaking;
Windows 7 Service Configurations by Black Viper
Hey Mitchell

I am at the Services box, that I arrived at by typing "services.msc" in the startup box. I don't quite understand how to put the services under manual, which (correct me if I am wrong) makes it so that the computer doesn't run the service at start up, but instead only when it needs it.

I guess my question is, if manual would be the best setting, what would I need to do to set it that way. Also, i was looking at that link you provided, but I am still unsure of how exactly to do it.

Edit:

Ok I think I figured it out somewhat, (again please correct me if I am wrong) Basically I can follow the chart at the bottom of the link and set the services according to either "Safe", "Tweaked", or "Bare-Bones".

Which do you personally recommend?
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23 Nov 2009   #13

Windows Seven Home Premium 32bit SP1
 
 

Sorry i just realised your OS is XP the link i gave you was for Windows 7 if you go back to the site and browse on the LH side you will find Service tweaks for XP and whatever service pack is applicable
Here is a link to a tutorial for what you want to know it is the same basis for XP
Services - Start or Disable
I hope this helps
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23 Nov 2009   #14

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mitchell64 View Post
Sorry i just realised your OS is XP the link i gave you was for Windows 7 if you go back to the site and browse on the LH side you will find Service tweaks for XP and whatever service pack is applicable
Here is a link to a tutorial for what you want to know it is the same basis for XP
Services - Start or Disable
I hope this helps
No no lol my OS is Windows 7.
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23 Nov 2009   #15

Windows Seven Home Premium 32bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nolephin View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mitchell64 View Post
Sorry i just realised your OS is XP the link i gave you was for Windows 7 if you go back to the site and browse on the LH side you will find Service tweaks for XP and whatever service pack is applicable
Here is a link to a tutorial for what you want to know it is the same basis for XP
Services - Start or Disable
I hope this helps
No no lol my OS is Windows 7.
Lol. i thought after how is this guy doing aero screen shots on XP doh!

Yeah just use the black Viper guide and only use safe settings to start, after you get a bit more comfortable with it you might want to try a few more

I got in the habit of keeping a record of the ones you change and what thier default setting was, this is handy when you have to reinstall windows as all your service tweaks are written down.

In the early days of Vista i would just refer to BVs guide study what a particular service purpose is and maybee if i thought i didnt need it on Auto do one every few days just to see how things responded

An example of this is Tablet initially was auto by default i think now it is manual by default anyway i dont use a tablet so i disabled it but a few days latter i went to use my snipping tool and it wouldnt work
Hence because i only done one service every now & then i was able to backtrack & found that the snipping tool was dependent on Tablet to be set to at least manual

Anyway gotta go just dont rush the process & take notes, all the best
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24 Nov 2009   #16
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I was also a big Black Viper fan to tolerate early Vista, and used him like a Bible in XP, but trust me it is not at all necessary in Windows 7 which genius is in setting most services on quick triggers.

The startup issues you have Nolephin are best troubleshot in the Event Viewer using Google, and by enabling Boot Logging using F8 at bootup, so you can check the log over time and detect the faulty driver or software as it fails to load.

I had a multi-minute startup on Vista laptop last year which I spent several weeks learning how to troubleshoot, mostly Googling relentlessly until I became familar with the Event errors, then fixing them one by one.

And the boot logging gives you suspect drivers/software to disable for testing, reinstall, or replace.

All that said, I am still very much a novice at startup troubleshooting so hopefully keeping this bumped will attract more knowledgeable techies.
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24 Nov 2009   #17
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Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

nolephin, when you're in Services (services.msc), you can set the items to atomatic, manual, or disabled. Select the service, right click on it, choose properties. When the window opens, click the drop down bar, then set it to your choice. Before just randomly disabling anything, it would be wiser to set it to manual... except those you know for sure you do not use.
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24 Nov 2009   #18

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee View Post
nolephin, when you're in Services (services.msc), you can set the items to atomatic, manual, or disabled. Select the service, right click on it, choose properties. When the window opens, click the drop down bar, then set it to your choice. Before just randomly disabling anything, it would be wiser to set it to manual... except those you know for sure you do not use.
Thanks for the suggestion, Jacee.

I followed Black Viper's guide and set it to his "Safe" suggestion. Going to try this out for a few days and see how it works.

If all goes well I might try the next step and see how works.
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24 Nov 2009   #19
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Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

Also make sure your drivers are up to date ... they will have an effect on the performance of your computer, especially graphics.
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24 Nov 2009   #20

Windows Seven Home Premium 32bit SP1
 
 

[QUOTE=gregrocker;400983]I was also a big Black Viper fan to tolerate early Vista, and used him like a Bible in XP, but trust me it is not at all necessary in Windows 7 which genius is in setting most services on quick triggers.

You are correct gregrocker, i went through mine last night and there was only 3 i reset compared to the 12 i would do with Vista
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