| Windows 7: Win 7 64 RAM filling up. Memory leak outside windows? |
22 Dec 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
Win 7 64 RAM filling up. Memory leak outside windows? In the last week or so, I have to reboot my pc almost every day because the RAM usage gets up to 93% and I can't do anything, even launch taskmanager. When I've caught it before it was too full, I saw that almost nothing was listed as using RAM (system was at like 80MB). Essentially, RAM is "in use", but the use is not explained by taskmgr or perfmon.
I'm prepared to learn that it's a BIOS or mem controller issue, but it never happened in several years of XP and Vista on the same rig. Also I see I'm not the only one with the same issue on Win 7 64bit: Win 7 64bit Ram Filling Up Problem - general-discussion - windows-7
Somebody tried to shut him down, but I have a feeling his complaint is as legit as mine. There's no excuse for Windows using all of the memory if it can't flush when you need it.
Ideas? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number - OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU Intel Q9550 Motherboard Asus Rampage Extreme Memory OCZ3P16004GK Graphics Card Visiontek HD4870x2 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Platinum Monitor(s) Displays Dell 3007 PSU PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750W Case - Cooling Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme, Yate Loons Hard Drives 32GB OCZ SSD
Seagate ST3750640AS-RK
2*HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000 HDS721010KLA330
6*Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS |
22 Dec 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CT |

Quote: Originally Posted by jemcgarvey In the last week or so, I have to reboot my pc almost every day because the RAM usage gets up to 93% and I can't do anything, even launch taskmanager. When I've caught it before it was too full, I saw that almost nothing was listed as using RAM (system was at like 80MB). Essentially, RAM is "in use", but the use is not explained by taskmgr or perfmon.
I'm prepared to learn that it's a BIOS or mem controller issue, but it never happened in several years of XP and Vista on the same rig. Also I see I'm not the only one with the same issue on Win 7 64bit: Win 7 64bit Ram Filling Up Problem - general-discussion - windows-7
Somebody tried to shut him down, but I have a feeling his complaint is as legit as mine. There's no excuse for Windows using all of the memory if it can't flush when you need it.
Ideas? Blaming windows would be the first reaction, but is it warranted? I have no such problem, with 64 bit. Maybe, you have a virus, or maybe all your memory is not recognized. There are a lot of areas to look into before we can assume that it is windows.
Many times the A/V is a memory glutton. Other times other things are going on in the system, indexing, or a virus scan. All things to think about. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 420 OS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CPU Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech Motherboard Dell Memory 6 gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650 Sound Card Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2009W 20" Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Cooling Fan Hard Drives 640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive Internet Speed DSL 2.85 |
22 Dec 2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
I had something similar happening today, my RAM usage doubled and I couldn't find the culprit. Luckily I have 8GB so it didn't fill up, it stopped at 3.20GB and my system kept running smooth. A reboot fixed it, now it has its usual 1.30-1.70 used with no apps open, only in background.
It doesn't bother me, I have plenty of memory, I'm just curious and thought I'd mention it since you mentioned it
Edit : By the way, looking at the events my RAM double usage was probably due to some sort of caching or prefetching by Windows, or even a defrag since my disk was "noising" more than usual. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 660 @ 3.33GHz, 2 cores, 4 l.p. Motherboard Asus P7P55D-E Memory Corsair CMT8GX3M2A1866C9 Dominator GT 8GB 1866MHz C9 DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 (1024MB GDDR5) Sound Card NVIDIA High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster P2770HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 HDMI(60hz) Keyboard Logitech Compact Keyboard K300 Mouse Logitech Laser Mouse PSU LC Power ATX 750W V2.2 Prophecy 2 Active PFC Case Cooler Master ATX Elite 330 Black Hard Drives - Primary(Boot) : INTEL SSDSA2M080G2GC ATA Device (80GB)
- WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 ATA Device (931 GB, IDE)
- oxSATA OEM Ext Hard Disk (5YD2D1AQ) [UPT] (2 TB, USB 3.0) Internet Speed Fiber Optic 100/10 Mbps |
22 Dec 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 |
1) What antivirus are you using?
2) Use HWinfo and check if your RAM is being recognized properly.
3) Pause the POST and see if you RAM is listed
4) Type msinfo32.exe and see what is says about your RAM.
5) Run Memtest.
6) Use Process Explorer and Process Monitor to identify your apps memory usage. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio Z46GDU OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 CPU P9700@2.8GHz 1066MHz FSB Motherboard Sony branded Memory 6GB DDR3 1066MHz Graphics Card 9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 13.1' WXGA Screen Resolution 1600x900 Hard Drives 320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache Internet Speed 1MB/s |
22 Dec 2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
Please read my entire post if you think my question warrants getting defensive on behalf of MS. MdM you seem to have the same issue I do, but unfortunately I only have 4GB. At the same time, it might not be the same, and my system just might keep filling up had I doubled my RAM.
Like I said, the bottom line is this. When the issue happens:
A. Windows Task Manager and Performance Monitor report something like 3.8GB physical memory "in use"
B. The current processes total no more than 250-500MB.
C. System response = slow as a dog
I'll try to get screenies next time since people seem to have a hard time believing it.
In response to specific questions:
Windows install is less than 2 weeks, ran AVG several days ago finding nothing. Have 250MB pf on primary and 6GB pf on second HDD. Incidentally, at the moment I have indexing limited to 3 folders of movies, no more than a thousand files. I run AVG free, and cpu use is <1%, no scan running, mem use at 2MB. Memory is listed perfectly in BIOS and HWinfo.
I did notice that the windows defrag was set to run automatically, but the schedule was 3 days ago, and even if it was running it would have appeared in Task Manager, but I disabled it for kicks. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number - OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU Intel Q9550 Motherboard Asus Rampage Extreme Memory OCZ3P16004GK Graphics Card Visiontek HD4870x2 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Platinum Monitor(s) Displays Dell 3007 PSU PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750W Case - Cooling Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme, Yate Loons Hard Drives 32GB OCZ SSD
Seagate ST3750640AS-RK
2*HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000 HDS721010KLA330
6*Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS |
23 Dec 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 |
Kill AVG and switch to Microsoft Security Essentials. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio Z46GDU OS Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 CPU P9700@2.8GHz 1066MHz FSB Motherboard Sony branded Memory 6GB DDR3 1066MHz Graphics Card 9300M GS 256MB Dedicated (Speed) + Intel4500MHD (Stamina) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 13.1' WXGA Screen Resolution 1600x900 Hard Drives 320GB 7200RPM w/ 16MB cache Internet Speed 1MB/s |
23 Dec 2009
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#7 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by jemcgarvey In the last week or so, I have to reboot my pc almost every day because the RAM usage gets up to 93% and I can't do anything, even launch taskmanager. When I've caught it before it was too full, I saw that almost nothing was listed as using RAM (system was at like 80MB). Essentially, RAM is "in use", but the use is not explained by taskmgr or perfmon.
I'm prepared to learn that it's a BIOS or mem controller issue, but it never happened in several years of XP and Vista on the same rig. Also I see I'm not the only one with the same issue on Win 7 64bit: Win 7 64bit Ram Filling Up Problem - general-discussion - windows-7
Somebody tried to shut him down, but I have a feeling his complaint is as legit as mine. There's no excuse for Windows using all of the memory if it can't flush when you need it.
Ideas? I had the same problem. I noticed that besides the RAM filling up over time all the way to 100% and LOCKUP, that the CPU cores were always doing something. This then became a clear indication to me that something else was running that may have a memory leak. I then brought up the running Services screen and watched for what services were getting almost constant regular share of CPU clock time. I located the problem service and found it to be in a constant "Starting..." state but never reaching a final "Started" status state. So I disabled the service and the problem was gone. Never had the problem since.
BTW...if you find yourself having a similar problem with some service of yours you never want to just set the problem program to "Manual". It needs to be set to "Disabled". The reason is that if the problem service is one that may be used by another service, the other service can actually invoke it if it is set to "Manual" and NOT "Disabled".
In other words "Manual" doesn't mean that the computer user has to actively "Start" the service in order for it to become invoked. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DELL / Alienware M17x OS Windiows & Home Premium CPU Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo P8700 (3MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB) Memory 6GB DDR3 - 1333Mhz Graphics Card SLITM Dual 1GB GDDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 260M7 Sound Card Internal High-Definition 5.1 Surround Sound Audio Monitor(s) Displays 17-inch WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 - (1200p) LCD Hard Drives 640GB 7,200RPM - RAID 0 (2x320GB) |
24 Dec 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
Interesting. I'll keep my eyes peeled for a "starting" service.
It's funny though, after numerous reinstalls (over the years) I've gotten to where I have a "perfect install"; I keep a log of every tweak and app that goes into setting up my windows, but every time it seems that when I'm completely set up, it has immediate performance issues and bugs like this.
I wonder if like too much software, or if I should use some sort of vm to contain my superfluous apps like Mp3tag and mediainfo, etc. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number - OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU Intel Q9550 Motherboard Asus Rampage Extreme Memory OCZ3P16004GK Graphics Card Visiontek HD4870x2 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Platinum Monitor(s) Displays Dell 3007 PSU PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750W Case - Cooling Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme, Yate Loons Hard Drives 32GB OCZ SSD
Seagate ST3750640AS-RK
2*HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000 HDS721010KLA330
6*Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS |
25 Dec 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit |
Here's a screenie on the way to full. If I don't reboot, it will eventually stop responding completely: | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number - OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU Intel Q9550 Motherboard Asus Rampage Extreme Memory OCZ3P16004GK Graphics Card Visiontek HD4870x2 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Platinum Monitor(s) Displays Dell 3007 PSU PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750W Case - Cooling Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme, Yate Loons Hard Drives 32GB OCZ SSD
Seagate ST3750640AS-RK
2*HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000 HDS721010KLA330
6*Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS |
25 Dec 2009
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#10 | | W7 RTM Ultimate x64 South Coast NSW |
Java #1
Search indexer #2
Those 2 would be the probable cause.
Java gets more and more. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS W7 RTM Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q8400 @ 2.66GHZ Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EG45M-UD2H Memory 4GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card Gainward GTS 450 GLH 1GB Edition Sound Card Integrated 8 Channel Monitor(s) Displays AOC 23.6 Inch Widescreen LCD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard HP SK-2960 Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Logitech M350 Wireless Gaming Mouse PSU Apevia Java Power 500W Case Cooler Master HAF 922 Black Cooling Stock Intel CPU Fan Hard Drives Seagate 500GB Internal
Western Digital 1TB Internal
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