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Windows 7: What's your memory assessment speed?

08 May 2012   #1781
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

[QUOTE
It may help but its not a guarantee. I once went from 1333 to 1866 DDR3 DRAM and I saw only a slight improvement. One thing to look for with RAM is a lower CL or CAS number than what you have now. that is Column Access Strobe Latency and is an idicator ofr RAM performance as well as the frequency.
Good RAM is fairly cheap if you want to give it a try. The lower the CL is the higher the price usually.[/QUOTE]

Wow! You lost me completely here. Lets go one step at a time.

let me repeat my system info
- Windows 7 64 pro
- Motherboard: Asus P5B ... Documentation say that it as fully control of the overclock parameters
- CPU: Q6600
- Ram: Kinston: 2 X 2Gb + 2 * 1Gb Total: 6Gig Speed 400Mhz

Now, If I want to see increasing performance without changing the motherboard and CPU. I already incresed my clock from 2.4 to 3.2 MHz
- Should I get faster memory
- Overclock my actual one or tweak the parameters
- Get faster memory and overclock the new one.

Once this answer, I will try to understand the information that you wrote

Martin


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08 May 2012   #1782
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Sorry 'bout that confusion, just giving some info about how RAM works, it's not all in the frequency.
Since there are so many variables one can't say if RAM with a higher frequency will improve performance. All systems will react differently so it is down to you giving it a try.
My best suggestion however, is to save your money for now toward some upgrade parts.
As for me saying I went from DDR3-1333MHz RAM to DDR3-1866MHz RAM was to say that it had only a minor performance increase and wasn't woth the money, but I had to give it a shot. Sure my winsat mem and other benchmark numbers went up noticeably, but the PC still ran about the same.
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08 May 2012   #1783
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

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Hi Martin, going from 266 to 320 do you notice the machine runs faster, apps open quicker? I suspect your hardware is limiting what you can do with clocking.
Hello Britton

Yes system is running a bit faster, I did no change in the bios other than increasing the clock to 320 MHz. All other parameter as been left to auto

Could I get another increase in performance if I install faster memory? That is my interrogation

Martin
It may help but its not a guarantee. I once went from 1333 to 1866 DDR3 DRAM and I saw only a slight improvement. One thing to look for with RAM is a lower CL or CAS number than what you have now. that is Column Access Strobe Latency and is an idicator ofr RAM performance as well as the frequency.
Good RAM is fairly cheap if you want to give it a try. The lower the CL is the higher the price usually.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Sorry 'bout that confusion, just giving some info about how RAM works, it's not all in the frequency.
Since there are so many variables one can't say if RAM with a higher frequency will improve performance. All systems will react differently so it is down to you giving it a try.
My best suggestion however, is to save your money for now toward some upgrade parts.
As for me saying I went from DDR3-1333MHz RAM to DDR3-1866MHz RAM was to say that it had only a minor performance increase and wasn't woth the money, but I had to give it a shot. Sure my winsat mem and other benchmark numbers went up noticeably, but the PC still ran about the same.
Understood
Martin
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08 May 2012   #1784
smarteyeball

 
 

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Now, If I want to see increasing performance without changing the motherboard and CPU. I already incresed my clock from 2.4 to 3.2 MHz

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Quote:
Should I get faster memory
No. You won't really notice much difference.

Quote:
- Overclock my actual one or tweak the parameters
Oc/tweak

Quote:
- Ram: Kinston: 2 X 2Gb + 2 * 1Gb Total: 6Gig Speed 400Mhz
Remove the 2 *1 GB sticks. Chances are they are mismatched (to the Kingston modules) and may be hurting your Rams speed overall.
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08 May 2012   #1785
raideruk

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit
 
 



16Gb Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz 9-9-9-24
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08 May 2012   #1786
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

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Now, If I want to see increasing performance without changing the motherboard and CPU. I already incresed my clock from 2.4 to 3.2 MHz


Quote:
- Ram: Kinston: 2 X 2Gb + 2 * 1Gb Total: 6Gig Speed 400Mhz
Remove the 2 *1 GB sticks. Chances are they are mismatched (to the Kingston modules) and may be hurting your Rams speed overall.
Hello/ Thanks
- How can I verify that they are mismatch?
- Witch memory module should I install ?
- How should they be install On my board, I got 4 banks 2 yellow & 2 black

Martin
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08 May 2012   #1787
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote:
Remove the 2 *1 GB sticks. Chances are they are mismatched (to the Kingston modules) and may be hurting your Rams speed overall.
Hello/ Thanks
- How can I verify that they are mismatch?
- Witch memory module should I install ?
- How should they be install On my board, I got 4 banks 2 yellow & 2 black

Martin
Did include snap picture om CPUID

Does it give a clue for the pertinence to upgrade or overclock memory

Martin


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08 May 2012   #1788
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by arjfca View Post
...Does it give a clue for the pertinence to upgrade or overclock memory

Martin
Go to the SPD tab and post a screenshot for each slot.


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08 May 2012   #1789
arjfca

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by arjfca View Post
...Does it give a clue for the pertinence to upgrade or overclock memory

Martin
Go to the SPD tab and post a screenshot for each slot.
Done

Martin


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08 May 2012   #1790
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

As an experiment, I would try removing the two 1GB modules and see if you notice a difference in speed. If you look at the numbers they are lower in rated speed, but better (lower number is good here) in CAS Latency.

Run a few benchmarks that way and see how the numbers compare with having all four sticks in there. I would also keep in mind that how you use your computer is more important than just a benchmark score. If you regularly do things that require a lot of RAM, 6GB instead of 4GB would be better, even if it runs a wee bit slower. If you regularly do things that require fast RAM, 4GB instead of 6GB would be better, even if you don't have quite as much of it.
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