| Windows 7: What's your memory assessment speed? |
01 Feb 2010
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#481 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Chimel
Guys, you shouldn't attach (ridiculously small) pictures in this thread really, there's only one value to answer this thread. ???
Perhaps try clicking the pics... | My System Specs |
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01 Feb 2010
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#482 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 || Linux Mint 14 (Maya) x64 Just outside the box you call 'reality'. |
@ smarteyeball: Got a bit of a random question for you; I was looking at your winsat stats on the previous page (above my first post in this thread), and I can't help but wonder something... Which would you say contributes more to the access speed of your memory, the fact that it's DDR3 or that it's in triple channel?
The reason I'm asking is because I'm already starting to plan my next PC build, even though I'm not quite finished with my current machine, but I'm a big fan of AMD, so (Unless I'm mistaken and they do support it on AM3 for example) I'll lose out on the tri-channel setup...
Have you ever checked your RAM access speeds in dual-channel mode on your current setup? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number .oO-monstrosity-Oo. OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 || Linux Mint 14 (Maya) x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x4 975BE 3.6GHz Motherboard MSI 990FXA-GD65 v3.0 (19.6 BIOS) Memory 2x4GB Patriot G2 DDR3-1600 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 275 Superclocked 896mb Sound Card Onboard Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron E2442 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard A4Tech Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Logitech G700 Wireless/Wired PSU CoolerMaster eXtreme Power Plus 650w Case Corsair Graphite 600T Special Edition White Cooling Zalman CNPS9700NT (Zalman MFC1 and 4x 120mm Zalman spare) Hard Drives WD 250GB, 2x Barracuda 500GB 7200.12, Barracuda 2TB 7200.12. Internet Speed 1Mb uncapped ADSL (Afriihost) |
02 Feb 2010
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#483 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by ZaLiTH @ smarteyeball: Got a bit of a random question for you; I was looking at your winsat stats on the previous page (above my first post in this thread), and I can't help but wonder something... Which would you say contributes more to the access speed of your memory, the fact that it's DDR3 or that it's in triple channel?
The reason I'm asking is because I'm already starting to plan my next PC build, even though I'm not quite finished with my current machine, but I'm a big fan of AMD, so (Unless I'm mistaken and they do support it on AM3 for example) I'll lose out on the tri-channel setup...
Have you ever checked your RAM access speeds in dual-channel mode on your current setup? AM3 is dual channel and no, I haven't tested mine in dual channel.
Basicaly I would say DDR3 contributes more to the overall 'speed' simply because it is capable of achieving a higher clockspeed over DDR2. Cas Latencies also play a big part in it too.
There is still some debate to whether tri-channel actually offers any 'real world' performance advantage over dual-channel and the general consensus is that it doesn't.
So if it's access speed you are concerned with, basically go for the highest mhz you can afford with the lowest stock Cas Latencies. ie 1333mhz CL7 or 1600mhz CL7/8
If you plan to overclock, you will have more 'head room' with a higher rated mhz ie 1600mhz
Going Above 1600mhz, is really only for those aiming for very high OC's.
Outside of mega-overclocks, the only real advantage to buying a 2x2GB DDR3 2000mhz kit would be to run them at a lower speed with tighter timings.
I wouldn't be too concerned about dual vs tri channel.
The only 'real' difference so far, is in synthetic benchmarks.
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02 Feb 2010
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#484 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 || Linux Mint 14 (Maya) x64 Just outside the box you call 'reality'. |

Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball Hope that helped  That it did, thanks... Reading reviews is all good and well, but not all of them actually give people's personal opinions on matters, that's why I like to ask around. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number .oO-monstrosity-Oo. OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 || Linux Mint 14 (Maya) x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x4 975BE 3.6GHz Motherboard MSI 990FXA-GD65 v3.0 (19.6 BIOS) Memory 2x4GB Patriot G2 DDR3-1600 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 275 Superclocked 896mb Sound Card Onboard Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron E2442 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard A4Tech Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Logitech G700 Wireless/Wired PSU CoolerMaster eXtreme Power Plus 650w Case Corsair Graphite 600T Special Edition White Cooling Zalman CNPS9700NT (Zalman MFC1 and 4x 120mm Zalman spare) Hard Drives WD 250GB, 2x Barracuda 500GB 7200.12, Barracuda 2TB 7200.12. Internet Speed 1Mb uncapped ADSL (Afriihost) |
02 Feb 2010
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#485 | | |
No worries mate, happy to help | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Custom Systems OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS (great board good slot placement) Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI Sound Card X-FI Forte 7.1 + ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser Opera, Chrome, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport Pedals + CSR shifter/7GS ▼
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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02 Feb 2010
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#486 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate English + language kits |
@ smarteyeball: I only meant that there is no need for a screenshot if the only information is a number, people can as well paste the score so it's directly readable in the post, rather than forcing readers to click on the picture of each post. I don't see anything of value in the screenshots other than the score, unless I am missing something? Not a big deal, though, that was just my 2 centavos.
@ ZaLiTH: Thanks, I just checked CPU-Z. Seems to be a little buggy, though, it reports 4 modules installed in slots 1 to 4, when I definitely have only 2 x 2GB DDR2 modules (G-Skill PC2-6400 @ 400MHz).
I'll check my mobo manual to see if I can boost this memory score in winsat & WEI, 400MHz seems pretty slow, but then, it's a 3yo computer. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate English + language kits CPU Intel Core 2 6420 2.13GHz Motherboard Asus P5W DH Deluxe Memory 4GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB Sound Card Onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell 1901FP Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1.5 and 0.5 TB |
02 Feb 2010
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#487 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Chimel @ smarteyeball: I only meant that there is no need for a screenshot if the only information is a number, people can as well paste the score so it's directly readable in the post, rather than forcing readers to click on the picture of each post. I don't see anything of value in the screenshots other than the score, unless I am missing something? Not a big deal, though, that was just my 2 centavos. No worries mate. I understand where you are coming from. You do have a point when it comes to winsat scores.
However when coupled with screenshots of other apps, it's sometimes it's easier and beneficial for others to 'see for themselves'. Plus it negates any 'fake scores' that the occasional person likes to post
(P.S I find it's actually quicker to right click on the pic> and open in new tab) Quote: I definitely have only 2 x 2GB DDR2 modules (G-Skill PC2-6400 @ 400MHz).
I'll check my mobo manual to see if I can boost this memory score in winsat & WEI, 400MHz seems pretty slow, but then, it's a 3yo computer. Where is it being reported as 400mhz? Don't forget that DDR2 is Double Double Rate so therefore 400*2=800mhz actual. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number SmartEyeball Custom Systems OS 8 Pro x64 CPU i7 3770K 4.6GHz Motherboard ASUS P8Z77 WS (great board good slot placement) Memory 16GB G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz Graphics Card 2x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI Sound Card X-FI Forte 7.1 + ATH-AD900 Headphones Monitor(s) Displays x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony Screen Resolution 1920*1200 / 1920*1080 Keyboard Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL Mouse Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron PSU Corsair AX1200W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives 2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black Antivirus MSE Browser Opera, Chrome, FF Other Info GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport Pedals + CSR shifter/7GS ▼
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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Bloody Big Grin |
03 Feb 2010
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#488 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 || Linux Mint 14 (Maya) x64 Just outside the box you call 'reality'. |

Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball Quote: I definitely have only 2 x 2GB DDR2 modules (G-Skill PC2-6400 @ 400MHz).
I'll check my mobo manual to see if I can boost this memory score in winsat & WEI, 400MHz seems pretty slow, but then, it's a 3yo computer. Where is it being reported as 400mhz? Don't forget that DDR2 is Double Double Rate so therefore 400*2=800mhz actual. Dang... You beat me to it. I had already opened up a quote in a new tab when I scrolled down and saw this... Lol.
By the way Chimel, just to set your mind at ease, CPU-z isn't actually that buggy... It shows mine as 440MHz for my RAM (DDR2-800 over clocked from 400MHz). But as smarteyeball said, being DDR the effective speed is twice that. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number .oO-monstrosity-Oo. OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 || Linux Mint 14 (Maya) x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x4 975BE 3.6GHz Motherboard MSI 990FXA-GD65 v3.0 (19.6 BIOS) Memory 2x4GB Patriot G2 DDR3-1600 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 275 Superclocked 896mb Sound Card Onboard Realtek ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays LG Flatron E2442 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard A4Tech Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Logitech G700 Wireless/Wired PSU CoolerMaster eXtreme Power Plus 650w Case Corsair Graphite 600T Special Edition White Cooling Zalman CNPS9700NT (Zalman MFC1 and 4x 120mm Zalman spare) Hard Drives WD 250GB, 2x Barracuda 500GB 7200.12, Barracuda 2TB 7200.12. Internet Speed 1Mb uncapped ADSL (Afriihost) |
03 Feb 2010
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#489 | | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate English + language kits |
@ZaLiTH: I didn't mean buggy about the speed, just about the slots:
I have 2 modules in 2 slots, leaving 2 slots empty, but CPU-Z says all 4 slots are used.
When I select Slot #1 to #4 in the CPU-Z drop-down list (attached), it shows 2GB in each.
@smarteyeball, ZaLiTH: You're right about the DDR2 actual speed, but CPU-Z says only 400 MHz (in the "Max Bandwidth" field attached), I would expect such a system tool to do the computation for me. Now, let's see, 2 times 400, where's my calculator? ^-^ | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate English + language kits CPU Intel Core 2 6420 2.13GHz Motherboard Asus P5W DH Deluxe Memory 4GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB Sound Card Onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell 1901FP Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1.5 and 0.5 TB |
03 Feb 2010
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#490 | | win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1 Ohio (From WV) |
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