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02-26-2010
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Pagefile Hello,
I have 6gb's of ram, do I need a pagefile? Played a little and turned it off but I noticed that there was some kind of usage in the performance monitor, still. Currently use 3 SSD's in RAID 0, with a 4th for pagefile and temp files.
Do I add 4th SSD to the RAID 0 array?
Do I go RAID 5, using the 4th that way?
Do I use the 3 SSD's in RAID 0, with the 4th for pagefile, as it is now?
RC1 is dying so I have purchased Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and I am getting ready for a clean install, thats why the questions.
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| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY #3, #2 OS W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32 CPU INTEL i7 920 DO, Core2 Duo 6400 Motherboard GIGABYTE EX58 UD3R-SLI, EP45-UD3R Memory KINGSTON DDR3 1333MHz, CORSAIR DDR2 800MHz Graphics Card EVGA GTX 260 x2, 8800 GTX Sound Card REALTEK HD onboard, ditto Monitor(s) Displays SONY 40" BRAVIA LCD Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard MS Mouse MS PSU COOLERMASTER 900W, ENERMAX 850W Case COOLERMASTER HAF 932 x2 Cooling stock Hard Drives OCZ VERTEX/RAID0 -3, Vertex 30GB Internet Speed ADSL 3MB/768KBs Other Info amateur enthusiast |
02-26-2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Yes, leave the pagefile.
Many programs expect and want a pagefile present.
Some will say say leave it as it and dont touch it.
I see nothing wrong with reducing the size and making it static with large amounts of RAM, but do not disable it.
With 8GB I use 768MB pagefile.
If you have the room, Pagefile would be best left on the SSD.
really a personal choice I think on how to set it up and how many other drives you have.
Im sure youll get many different viewpoints, some likely better than mine but:
If it were me I would just run RAID0
Disable Win7s Defrag Shedule .. and disable the Superfetch service. (7 may do this on its own but sometimes it doesnt)
Possibily change the Pagefile to either 768 or 1GB Min and Max.
Thats It.
Newer Gen SSDs do not need alot of tweaking. Moving TEMP Folder is OK if your really in need of space. But Id leave it where it is if you can.
then use a spinning drive for all backups, (FULL disk images) and backing up often
What kind of SSDs did you get? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k (4.5Ghz) Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks (@1866) Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SuperClocked (1280MB) Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T (SE White) Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives [OS SSD]Intel 320 (80GB) -- Intel X25-V (40GB) --WD Black (1TB)x2 -- WD Blue (640GB) Other Info LG BD/DVD |
02-26-2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit |
It's recommended by Microsoft to set the pagefile to 1.5x the amount of physical ram installed, Windows does this by default. However, moving the pagefile to a separate physical hard drive and setting the initial and maximum pagefile size to be equal can result in better overall system performance.
Last edited by Nemix77; 02-26-2010 at 02:31 PM..
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit CPU Intel i5-2520M Memory Corsair 8GB DDR3-1600 Graphics Card AMD HD-6850M Sound Card Realtek Dolby Advanced HD Screen Resolution 1600x900 Mouse Logitech M510 | Logitech G400 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB | Hitachi Travelstar 750GB Internet Speed 35 Mbps |
02-26-2010
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TY,
I have been using 30gb OCZ Vertex, FW 1.1.
Intend on FW 1.5 update, before clean install of Windows 7. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY #3, #2 OS W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32 CPU INTEL i7 920 DO, Core2 Duo 6400 Motherboard GIGABYTE EX58 UD3R-SLI, EP45-UD3R Memory KINGSTON DDR3 1333MHz, CORSAIR DDR2 800MHz Graphics Card EVGA GTX 260 x2, 8800 GTX Sound Card REALTEK HD onboard, ditto Monitor(s) Displays SONY 40" BRAVIA LCD Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard MS Mouse MS PSU COOLERMASTER 900W, ENERMAX 850W Case COOLERMASTER HAF 932 x2 Cooling stock Hard Drives OCZ VERTEX/RAID0 -3, Vertex 30GB Internet Speed ADSL 3MB/768KBs Other Info amateur enthusiast |
02-26-2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Yes, 1.5x is recommended, but doesnt really need to be that large when your talking 4GB of RAM+
W/4Gb Id use around a 2GB PF though.
Moving the pagefile off the SSD to a spinning drive is going to hurt performance, as any spinning drive is much much slower.
Although with 4GB + RAM, youll seldom ever use the PF anyway, when you do, it will have to wait for the spinning drive to spin up and seek.
Those Vertex with FW 1.5 will do an excellent job. If your going to RAID them, Id do as I suggested earlier. They will serve you well.
If running just a solo 30Gb vertex .. then yea .. Id move the Temp Folder, disable Hiberfile etc because space will be cramped.
So long as you have at least 2 of them in RAID, It should no longer be a issue.
Flash them all to 1.5 seperatly, in IDE mode, before you set up the RAID.
I would also sanitary erase each drive after the FW update as well before setting up and installing windows | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k (4.5Ghz) Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks (@1866) Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SuperClocked (1280MB) Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T (SE White) Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives [OS SSD]Intel 320 (80GB) -- Intel X25-V (40GB) --WD Black (1TB)x2 -- WD Blue (640GB) Other Info LG BD/DVD |
02-26-2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit |
Wishmaster, he clearly stated that he has 3 SSD's on Raid and a 4th for Pagefile and that's the way he should do it. Having all 4 SSD's on Raid would not have the same effect on the Pagefile as having the Pagefile moved to on a separate SSD dedicated for the Pagefile. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit CPU Intel i5-2520M Memory Corsair 8GB DDR3-1600 Graphics Card AMD HD-6850M Sound Card Realtek Dolby Advanced HD Screen Resolution 1600x900 Mouse Logitech M510 | Logitech G400 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB | Hitachi Travelstar 750GB Internet Speed 35 Mbps |
02-26-2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
on a spinning drive, I agree, moving the PF to a seperate drive can help some.
However, SSds have near 0 access times, no spin up time, and much faster read rates.
In a Raid array they are even faster.
You're still moving the Pagefile to a slower drive. 1 SSD VS 3 in RAID0
As long as theres room, theres no reason to move it away from the
Solid State RAID array. it will only hurt performance when the PF is needed, not help. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k (4.5Ghz) Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks (@1866) Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SuperClocked (1280MB) Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T (SE White) Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives [OS SSD]Intel 320 (80GB) -- Intel X25-V (40GB) --WD Black (1TB)x2 -- WD Blue (640GB) Other Info LG BD/DVD |
02-26-2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit |
Whatever, I do not totally agree with you but I also do not want to go on arguing. Let him decide what he thinks is best. I'm done you hear?
For the sake of reasoning:
Raid 4 SSD's = 0.x access time, Pagefile with System Files
Single SSD = 0.x access time, Pagefile seperate from System files
Last edited by Nemix77; 02-26-2010 at 08:43 PM..
| My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit CPU Intel i5-2520M Memory Corsair 8GB DDR3-1600 Graphics Card AMD HD-6850M Sound Card Realtek Dolby Advanced HD Screen Resolution 1600x900 Mouse Logitech M510 | Logitech G400 Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB | Hitachi Travelstar 750GB Internet Speed 35 Mbps |
02-26-2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 64bit Ultimate SP1, VMware Windows 7 64bit Ultimate SP1 |
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Goonie Build 8 2010 OS Windows 7 64bit Ultimate SP1, VMware Windows 7 64bit Ultimate SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.8 or 4.2 when i need it Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58-UD5 Memory Corsair XMS3 12GB DDR3 1600 1.5v Graphics Card MSI GeForce GTX 560Ti OC Twin FrozR II Sound Card 7.1 HD Monitor(s) Displays 2x BenQ 24 LED 1080p + LG 50PK590 1080p Screen Resolution 3840 x 1080p Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU Corsair AX 750W ATX Modular Case Antec Fusion Remote Max Cooling Noctua NH D14 Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB OS/
Intel X25-M 160GB
Data Robotics Drobo V2 8TB Internet Speed 15Mbs Down 1.3Mbs Up Other Info Hauppauge HD PVR/
Pioneer 1017-k - 7.1 THX/
Xbox 360 250 Slim
SkyHD/LG 50PK590 TV |
02-26-2010
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#10 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit |
As you have been advised, leave paging memory decisions to MS. They have much more experience in this area. Reset your system to the defaults and never, never, never mess around with it again. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite L305D laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core QL-64, 2100 Mhz, 2 Cores Motherboard TOSHIBA Portable PC (Socket M2/S1G1) Memory 4.0GB (2x2GB) DDR2 @ 333MHz 5-5-5-15 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics (Toshiba) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor @ 1280x800 Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 Keyboard standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives 125.03GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device (IDE)
Depending upon testing, organized as 1,2, or 3 partitions with/without a 100mb system partition at the front. Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drives HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T50N ATA Device
Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad
Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
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