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Windows 7 - Quieting Windows 7 down.... |
03-15-2010
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#1 | | XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 |
Quieting Windows 7 down.... I know this has been done to death, or at least the hits from Google makes it seem that way. However I still have the problem and I'm hoping I can get a little help...
I have three computers in a relatively large room. One is a desktop system running ASUS/AMD64 x2, the second is an Acer Aspire One and the third is an ASRock ION 330 which thinks it's my television set. All three are newly updated to Windows 7 Ultimate and networked in the "business network" fashion with half a dozen shares on each machine.
When I had these machines on XP they would sit in standby for hours on end. Even when not in standby they sat idle -- 0 CPU and 0 Disk usage for hours at a time...
Ok so here's the thing... Since updating to Windows 7 all three of these machines are thrashing their hard disks almost continuously. Even when they aren't bashing the drives the drive lights are still pulsing once a second (approximately)... I can hear the drives stepping so there is some kind of hard disk activity going on... and all three machines are running about 5 degrees warmer than when I had the system on XP. CPU usage is about 3 to 5% continuously on all three machines and even with 30 minute stanby timers it can take several hours before the network goes into standby. Oddly, standby is now all or nothing... the whole thing goes to sleep at once, waking any one of them wakes them all.
At night, when the lights are out and the blinds are closed, this puts on quite the light show... flickering amber and green leds lighting up the room and the soft click click of near constant drive accesses. It's really very disconcerting...
I'm not terribly worried about the desktop machine... I can simply turn it off. But I am concerned about the ASRock which is on 24/7 and the Aspire since it's on batteries...
So... how do I quiet these systems down?
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Homebrew OS XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 CPU Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz) Motherboard Asus M2N-MX SE Plus Memory Kingston DDR2 800 2gb Graphics Card Nvidia GF-8400 Sound Card Realtek on Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer x-193bw Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard yes Mouse yes PSU 350watt In-Win Case In-Win Cooling Air Hard Drives Western Digital 500g Internet Speed 5mpbs Other Info Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP). |
03-15-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by CommonTater I know this has been done to death, or at least the hits from Google makes it seem that way. However I still have the problem and I'm hoping I can get a little help...
I have three computers in a relatively large room. One is a desktop system running ASUS/AMD64 x2, the second is an Acer Aspire One and the third is an ASRock ION 330 which thinks it's my television set. All three are newly updated to Windows 7 Ultimate and networked in the "business network" fashion with half a dozen shares on each machine.
When I had these machines on XP they would sit in standby for hours on end. Even when not in standby they sat idle -- 0 CPU and 0 Disk usage for hours at a time...
Ok so here's the thing... Since updating to Windows 7 all three of these machines are thrashing their hard disks almost continuously. Even when they aren't bashing the drives the drive lights are still pulsing once a second (approximately)... I can hear the drives stepping so there is some kind of hard disk activity going on... and all three machines are running about 5 degrees warmer than when I had the system on XP. CPU usage is about 3 to 5% continuously on all three machines and even with 30 minute stanby timers it can take several hours before the network goes into standby. Oddly, standby is now all or nothing... the whole thing goes to sleep at once, waking any one of them wakes them all.
At night, when the lights are out and the blinds are closed, this puts on quite the light show... flickering amber and green leds lighting up the room and the soft click click of near constant drive accesses. It's really very disconcerting...
I'm not terribly worried about the desktop machine... I can simply turn it off. But I am concerned about the ASRock which is on 24/7 and the Aspire since it's on batteries...
So... how do I quiet these systems down? If those specs below are correct you are ram starved, that could make you use the page file almost all the time.
RE the lights put a piece of black tape over them.
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS WCP ONLY CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
03-15-2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate (32 bit) |
Quote: If those specs below are correct you are ram starved, that could make you use the page file almost all the time.
RE the lights put a piece of black tape over them.
Ken
I would agree.
Have thought of installing Windows 7 32bit instead of 64bit? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo Desktop H420 OS Windows 7 Ultimate (32 bit) CPU Intel i3 2100 Motherboard Lenovo LGA1155 MB Memory 4GB of DDR3 memory Graphics Card PCI-E NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT Sound Card Build-in on MB Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 23" HD Model 2333 Screen Resolution 1920x 1080 Keyboard Who needs a keyboard? Mouse Logitech Laser G7 wireless PSU 450 Watt and some fans that blow Case Small tower Cooling Yes I am cool. lol Hard Drives C: Main Drive SATA 250GB
D:Backup Drive 500GB SATA Internet Speed Cable - Down 30 Mbps, UP 12 Mbps Other Info Motorola SB-6120 Cable modem DOC 3
Logitech Pro 9000 webcam |
03-15-2010
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#4 | | XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 |

Quote: Originally Posted by IggyAZ Quote: If those specs below are correct you are ram starved, that could make you use the page file almost all the time.
RE the lights put a piece of black tape over them.
Ken
I would agree.
Have thought of installing Windows 7 32bit instead of 64bit? I am using Windows 7 Ultimate X-86 and all three machines run very comfortably without swap files at all. I don't use monster apps (MS-Word is about as big as it gets) and I don't play computer games so I can squeak through on very modest specs. The memory load runs 400m or less, most of the time.
The big reason I've updated to Windows 7 at all is the upcoming change in hard disk sector sizes that neither XP nor 2k can accomodate. Plus I do a little amateur software development and probably should be in on the latest stuff.
And, with respect, I don't think black tape is the answer to the problem.  These drives are busy enough that I'd be worried about their lifetimes... Both the ASRock and Aspire machines are on 2.5" laptop drives which only increases my concern.
I've already shut down a lot of stuff in Windows 7 and it has helped, but there's obviously a service or driver I haven't found that's doing this...
(Note I've updated my system info to be a little more helpful) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Homebrew OS XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 CPU Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz) Motherboard Asus M2N-MX SE Plus Memory Kingston DDR2 800 2gb Graphics Card Nvidia GF-8400 Sound Card Realtek on Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer x-193bw Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard yes Mouse yes PSU 350watt In-Win Case In-Win Cooling Air Hard Drives Western Digital 500g Internet Speed 5mpbs Other Info Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP). |
03-16-2010
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I have constant hard disc activity at full idle. 4G RAM. 32-bit Windows 7.
Mostly write activity. Opposite of XP where the C: drive would actually spin down. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core) Motherboard GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4G Graphics Card integrated ATI HD 4200 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Mouse Logitech WIRED! PSU Ultra X4 500W Case Ultra X-blaster Hard Drives 1 SATA (750GB, 32MB cache, 7200 RPM)
1 IDE (80GB, 8MB cache, 7200 RPM) Internet Speed 15 Mbps FIOS |
03-16-2010
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#6 | | XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 |

Quote: Originally Posted by JimLewandowski I have constant hard disc activity at full idle. 4G RAM. 32-bit Windows 7.
Mostly write activity. Opposite of XP where the C: drive would actually spin down. Interesting observation ... I don't think the drives on any of these machines have spun down since I installed 7... That poor ASRock machine has been blinking once a second for a couple of weeks now... It hasn't gone into standby, except my me putting it there and if the drive light is blinking it's pretty unlikely the drive has parked.
Makes me wonder if they went Dial Up on us and are using "keep alive" tricks to artificially improve system performance???? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Homebrew OS XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 CPU Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz) Motherboard Asus M2N-MX SE Plus Memory Kingston DDR2 800 2gb Graphics Card Nvidia GF-8400 Sound Card Realtek on Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer x-193bw Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard yes Mouse yes PSU 350watt In-Win Case In-Win Cooling Air Hard Drives Western Digital 500g Internet Speed 5mpbs Other Info Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP). |
03-16-2010
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I have Windows 7 64x on a Toshiba laptop with an AMD Turion Dual Core and 4GB of memory and have little to no HDD activity at idle.
Last edited by antharr; 03-16-2010 at 10:31 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba L505 OS Windows 7 64x CPU AMD Turion II Dual-Core Mobile M520 2.30 GHz Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 |
03-16-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by CommonTater 
Quote: Originally Posted by JimLewandowski I have constant hard disc activity at full idle. 4G RAM. 32-bit Windows 7.
Mostly write activity. Opposite of XP where the C: drive would actually spin down. Interesting observation ... I don't think the drives on any of these machines have spun down since I installed 7... That poor ASRock machine has been blinking once a second for a couple of weeks now... It hasn't gone into standby, except my me putting it there and if the drive light is blinking it's pretty unlikely the drive has parked.
Makes me wonder if they went Dial Up on us and are using "keep alive" tricks to artificially improve system performance???? My drive has never spun down ever since I installed Windows 7. With XP it did all the time when I walked away.
If you look at Task Manager -> Performance monitor, it's mostly (if not all) write activity. $NTFS log, .PF files, and the paging file (writes, not reads). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core) Motherboard GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4G Graphics Card integrated ATI HD 4200 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Mouse Logitech WIRED! PSU Ultra X4 500W Case Ultra X-blaster Hard Drives 1 SATA (750GB, 32MB cache, 7200 RPM)
1 IDE (80GB, 8MB cache, 7200 RPM) Internet Speed 15 Mbps FIOS |
03-16-2010
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#9 | | XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 |

Quote: Originally Posted by JimLewandowski My drive has never spun down ever since I installed Windows 7. With XP it did all the time when I walked away.
If you look at Task Manager -> Performance monitor, it's mostly (if not all) write activity. $NTFS log, .PF files, and the paging file (writes, not reads). I have been in there and I agree it seems to be timestamping or writing some kind of timed data to these files. I don't use swap files, so that's not part of the problem... But I do wonder what it's writing to the NTFS log and the PF files.
There is an option at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Reliability
which sets a time stamping interval, but changing that doesn't seem to make much difference, to anything.
Last edited by CommonTater; 03-16-2010 at 01:36 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Homebrew OS XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 CPU Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz) Motherboard Asus M2N-MX SE Plus Memory Kingston DDR2 800 2gb Graphics Card Nvidia GF-8400 Sound Card Realtek on Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer x-193bw Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard yes Mouse yes PSU 350watt In-Win Case In-Win Cooling Air Hard Drives Western Digital 500g Internet Speed 5mpbs Other Info Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP). |
03-16-2010
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I've looked into this and got a "not all disc activity is bad" from the morons over at aumha.net. Research and find out where they're going (which I did AND posted).
Sure, these I/Os are not "bad" or "wrong" but is does beg the question:
why have a disc spin-down time for the C: drive (sure it works on my 2nd IDE drive) when even at idle it won't stop
I feel for those with SSDs as I would think this would really kill the life of the drive
I don't have any of the old sysinternals tools that do I/O trace so I could see what Cyl, Head, Sector is being written and possibly coming from what storage location. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 CPU AMD Phenom II X2 (dual-core) Motherboard GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 4G Graphics Card integrated ATI HD 4200 Sound Card integrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Mouse Logitech WIRED! PSU Ultra X4 500W Case Ultra X-blaster Hard Drives 1 SATA (750GB, 32MB cache, 7200 RPM)
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