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Windows 7 - Disk Cleanup: Why was Compress Old Files removed? |
04-05-2010
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Disk Cleanup: Why was Compress Old Files removed? Hey there,
I migrated from WinXP Home to Windows 7 Pro, so I do realize I skipped a generation when I ask this question.
I found that the Compress Old Files helped save me gigabytes of space at times. The philosophy as I interpreted it made sense - if you didn't use files, it's safe to trade access performance for increased disk space.
The only thing I can think of is that with the advent of extremely cheap storage, it was viewed as unessential.
What d'you think?
--Red
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Dimension 4600 OS Windows 7, Super OS 9.10 CPU Pentium 4, 2.4 GHz Memory 2.0 GB DDR2 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 9550, 256MB, AGP 8x Monitor(s) Displays Compaq MV500 VGA (yes, it *is* ancient.) |
04-05-2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc |
Welcome Red
I think that the answer that you are seeking varies by individual. When I bought my current computer it came with a 500gb hard drive. I had it for a year and a half and am using less than 100gb plus a backup partition, for me I have no need to compress and totally unessential
On the other hand, it I were using 475gb of my 500, the compressed feature would be worthwhile. Even with cheap space, unless an individual is one of the luck few, in today's economy, with money to burn, I think that it should be used.
As I said, subjective question with a subjective answer, be prepared for another 2 dozen replies. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 420 OS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CPU Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech Motherboard Dell Memory 6 gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650 Sound Card Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2009W 20" Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Cooling Fan Hard Drives 640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive Internet Speed DSL 2.85 System Manufacturer/Model Number HP dv6519tx OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU 1.80 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7100 Memory 3 gig ddr2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 15.4” WXGA High Definition BrightView Widescreen Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 Keyboard 101 key compatible Mouse Touch Pad with On/Off button and dedicated vertical Scroll PSU 90 W AC Power Adapter Cooling Kitchen plate under the lappy Hard Drives Hitachi 320 GB (5400 rpm) Internet Speed Three Wireless internet prepaid using E160G USB dongle |
04-06-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Redmage913 Hey there,
I found that the Compress Old Files helped save me gigabytes of space at times. The philosophy as I interpreted it made sense - if you didn't use files, it's safe to trade access performance for increased disk space.
The only thing I can think of is that with the advent of extremely cheap storage, it was viewed as unessential.
--Red .
The Compress Old Files option made running Disk Cleanup so slow it was useless - better it should run faster so people will use it. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Athlon ii x4 620 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P Memory 4 GB Graphics Card Geforce 9600 512meg Sound Card Xonar DS Hard Drives Hitachi Deskstar 1 tb |
03-22-2011
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Argh, I finally found the solution! NTFS Compressor - 2005 open source yada yada.... I hate how they removed this feature from Windows 7, shoulda just kept the option at the very least. This program though old seems to have many options, exclude many media files, compress based on numbers of days without access, and of course compress based on compressibility. Figured I'd post this since general google searches got me nothing other than the everyones got a lot of disc space so forget about it answer. | My System Specs | | |
03-22-2011
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Forget file compression. If space gets tight, buy another hard drive. I picked up a 1.5 Terabyte 7200RPM SATA drive for $73, shipping was free. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Precision 370 OS Windows 7 Pro X64 CPU Intel Pentium 4 Dual LP 3.4Ghz Memory 4GB DDR PC2-5200 ECC Graphics Card NVIDIA Quadro FX 3400/4400 Sound Card SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Monitor(s) Displays Westinghouse 22" L2210NW Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Hard Drives 300GB PATA
80GB SATA (boot)
1.5TB SATA Internet Speed Cable via Road Runner 2MB Upload, 20MB Download |
03-22-2011
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Windows had no way of knowing if it was compressing "old" files that were in the \Windows or \Program Files folder, and with the advent of junctions and SxS in critical file and folder locations instead of mostly straight files like you would have in XP and 2000, this option really made little sense. Since compressing Windows files (especially ones with junctions to WinSxS) causes an inordinate performance hit on older machines, having the ability to compress files from Explorer as necessary, as well as the "Compress old files..." option could (and did, a lot of times) cause the disk cleanup UI to hang, it seems likely this was removed under the guise of "disk storage is ubiquitous and cheap nowadays" when in reality it was a pretty buggy option to begin with on large volumes and didn't come into the new century ready for a new OS model like Vista. Anyone who used this on XP on larger disks knows the hangs I speak of, and it appears that on Vista (and moreso Windows 7), this option is gone in favor of using Windows Backup or a 3rd party archival solution to remove old files rather than compressing them. If you have a client with a large drive full and want to compress data, the problem isn't the data - it's that you're storing too much on your system without using proper archival solutions. If you have a file server with this problem, you either didn't scale properly and need to add more disks, or you need to implement nearline and long-term storage solutions - compression is a BAD idea in most scenarios nowadays. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
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